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Irish Apes: Tactics of De-Humanization (Roseanne not racist)
The Society Papers ^ | 01/11/2011 | Lisa Wade PhD

Posted on 06/06/2018 9:22:47 AM PDT by Az Joe

In the last few hundred years, dark-skinned peoples have been likened to apes in an effort to dehumanize them and justify their oppression and exploitation. This is familiar to most Americans as something that is done peculiarly to Black people.

The history of U.S. discrimination against the Irish, however, offers an interesting comparative data point.

The Irish, too, have been compared to apes, suggesting that this comparison is a generalizable tactic of oppression, not one inspired by the color of the skin of Africans.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apes; irish; monkeys
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1 posted on 06/06/2018 9:22:47 AM PDT by Az Joe
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To: Az Joe

Several visual examples provided in the article.


2 posted on 06/06/2018 9:23:22 AM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Az Joe

I remember this blond haired blue eyed Irishman I use to know. If you were not blond, to him you were Black Irish. Whatever dude.


3 posted on 06/06/2018 9:26:40 AM PDT by BBell (not drinking, just a smart a$$)
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To: Az Joe

What’s lost to us now is a perception of what America was like prior to the immigration of millions of Irish who were up to that point kept illiterate under British law.

Considering that the Irish ended up forming the backbone of the Democrat Party I’m not sure that they were an overall positive contribution to the nation.


4 posted on 06/06/2018 9:28:01 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Az Joe

He hated the English. He always referred to them as the “E-people”.


5 posted on 06/06/2018 9:28:39 AM PDT by BBell (not drinking, just a smart a$$)
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To: Az Joe

Let’s get real....EVERY school in the country say our closest relative is the ape.


6 posted on 06/06/2018 9:30:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Az Joe

I think she thought - as I did - that Jarrett was of Iranian descent.


7 posted on 06/06/2018 9:30:21 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Az Joe

i have never heard Irish folks compared to apes/monkeys.


8 posted on 06/06/2018 9:30:55 AM PDT by ronniesgal ( I wonder what his FR handle is??)
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To: Az Joe

The Jewish people have been compared to apes one or twice.


9 posted on 06/06/2018 9:32:30 AM PDT by ichabod1 (If there is to be war, let it begin here.)
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To: Az Joe
Nobody gets “outraged” unless there’s some other agenda at work.


10 posted on 06/06/2018 9:35:44 AM PDT by dead
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11 posted on 06/06/2018 9:38:15 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: MeganC
Re your note: At the beginning, the Irish sought freedom and opportunity, as is illustrated by the following summary from PRONI records regarding a particular examble:

At the web site of - can be found inspiring words about Irish emigrants to the U. S.

Of special note are the words of John Dunlap, who was responsible for the printing of the Declaraiton of Independence and wrote to his brother-in-law, Robert Rutherford, in Strabane, Co. Tyrone, extolling the advantages of the New World, on 12 May 1785. First, he referred to his brother, James Dunlap, who was likewise in America:

"... my brother James left this (sic) for Kentucky a few weeks ago; I expect him back in the summer; then perhaps he may take a trip to Ireland. The account he gives of the soil is pleasing but the difficulty of going to it from this is great; indeed the distance is not less than a thousand miles. I was there last year and must confess that although the journey is a difficult one I did not begrudge the time and labour it cost me. We are told the parliament of Ireland means to lay restrictions on those who want to come from that country to this; time will tell whether or no this will answer the purpose they intend. People with a family advanced in life find great difficulties in emigration but the young men of Ireland who wish to be free and happy should leave it and come here as quick as possible; there is no place in the world where a man meets so rich a reward for good conduct and industry as in America ... "

Also excerpted from the PRONI site is the following observation from the DUNLAP/DELAP PAPERS Introduction at: "John Dunlap's is not an untypical life story of many who 'went west' from County Tyrone in the 18th century to make a new life and create a new country to which they then encouraged and assisted others to migrate. One went and succeeded and therefore others followed. By the time he died, on 27 November 1812, aged 66, John Dunlap had amassed a large fortune and had subscribed £4,000 in 1780 to the National Bank formed to supply the American Army, and he held 98,000 acres in Virginia and the adjoining counties of Kentucky. He also owned the land on which Utica, Ohio, stands.

"He had played his part in military affairs during the War of Independence, as a founder in 1774 of the 1st Troop of Philadelphia City Cavalry; as a cornet he accompanied this command in the campaign of 1776-1777, taking part in actions at Princeton and Trenton. After the war, from 1789 to 1792, he was a member of the Common Council of Philadelphia. In 1812 he was buried at Christ Church, Philadelphia.

"The site of his birth at Meetinghouse Street, Strabane, is marked by a plaque erected by Strabane Urban District Council in 1965."

12 posted on 06/06/2018 9:40:51 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Az Joe

are these the same irish that slobbered all over bill clinton’s shoes?


13 posted on 06/06/2018 9:46:31 AM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: ronniesgal

That is due to historical ignorance on your part, no offense.


14 posted on 06/06/2018 9:47:51 AM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: bankwalker

Careful there. You wouldn’t say that to me in person.


15 posted on 06/06/2018 9:48:47 AM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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Oh you dont know if the Irish were an overall positive contribution huh?

Reagan was Irish. Case closed


16 posted on 06/06/2018 9:50:38 AM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Az Joe


17 posted on 06/06/2018 9:54:42 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Az Joe

Either humans descended from apes or they didn’t. Sorry libs, no exceptions for blacks. They are as monkey as anyone. Everything is racist, so nothing is racist.


18 posted on 06/06/2018 9:54:45 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: Az Joe

Treating people like luggage at the airport is another dehumanizing tactic.


19 posted on 06/06/2018 10:04:39 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Az Joe

Why not? I asked a legitimate question. Bill Clinton went to Ireland and they couldn’t get enough of him - slobbered all over his shoes. Yes, I would say it to you in person, or anyone else for that matter, because it’s true.


20 posted on 06/06/2018 10:24:42 AM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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