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1 posted on 06/06/2018 6:23:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
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The only “except” clause in the pardoning power is impeachment. The president cannot pardon anyone from impeachment.


2 posted on 06/06/2018 6:30:42 AM PDT by arthurus (65[)
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To: Kaslin

It is stupid for Giuliani to even mention the President’s pardon power.

Trump did nothing wrong. There was no collusion. He is not guilty of a crime. Why is anyone talking about a pardon - least of all his lawyer?

To bring it up as a even a possibility just fuels the illegal effort to remove President Trump.


3 posted on 06/06/2018 6:32:17 AM PDT by sipow
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I think Rudy means well. He’s an old school deep stater (pre-treason) and has perhaps a bit of Alzheimer’s going on.

He really needs to go back to pushing security web stuff.


4 posted on 06/06/2018 6:32:27 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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Rudy needs to get someone in Congress to hook him up with their free dementia meds program. He’s lost more than a little off his fastball.


5 posted on 06/06/2018 6:48:57 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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Bob Barr jumped the shark a long time ago. It’s too bad because he was once a good trooper. Washington DC conservatives just don’t want to win.


8 posted on 06/06/2018 8:14:58 AM PDT by Fairhairedboy (Trumpist!)
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To: Kaslin

Rudy didn’t bring it up.


9 posted on 06/06/2018 8:32:22 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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The President...shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment. The power to pardon is one of the least limited powers granted to the President in the Constitution. ... A pardon, however, completely wipes out the legal effects of a conviction.

Trump can pardon anyone of any federal crime including himself. He can not pardon himself from impeachment. Impeachment and conviction in the Senate is simply a removal process and not a criminal conviction.

10 posted on 06/06/2018 8:38:02 AM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Kaslin

Hamilton’s Federalist papers do not trump the Constistution (no pun intended), which limits pardoning power to Presidents only regarding impeachment. The text is unambiguous about this matter.


11 posted on 06/06/2018 8:48:15 AM PDT by confederatecarpetbag
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“In case Rudy missed it, the operative word used by Hamilton, as regards the issue of impeachment and prosecution, is “afterwards.” First comes impeachment. Then a trial and conviction by the Senate. And, only after these proceedings, when the president is removed from office and no longer occupying a seat of power, can he be prosecuted for his crimes.”

That’s still irrelevant, since the President can also pardon people from FUTURE prosecution.


12 posted on 06/06/2018 9:29:35 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Ford pardon Nixon in advance of prosecution.


14 posted on 06/06/2018 5:18:57 PM PDT by samtheman (LetÂ’s elect as many Republicans as possible in 2018)
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This is a distraction. 1) it would never happen because Trump hasn’t done anything that he would need to pardon himself for, and 2) Rudi can point to at least a couple of articles when the Democrats were saying the exact same thing, based on the idea that Hillary could pardon herself. Of course, those were written when everyone knew Hillary was going to win, but it’s going to be funny when Rudi starts quoting those stories.


15 posted on 06/06/2018 7:32:23 PM PDT by Ronin (Blackface or bolt-ons, it's the same fraud. - Norm Lenhart)
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