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To: ConjunctionJunction; familyop; DesertRhino; Nifster; Alberta's Child; ASOC
I actually read a long blog post fairly recently that made a compelling case for a draft, from a former Army guy by the name of John Reed.

Among the reasons offered:

1) It's one to thing to go to war, but it's quite another to volunteer for it. An eagerness to partake in the activities of war is not necessarily good. Our fighting forces should try and avoid being comprised largely of those who join for inappropriate reasons.

2) A lot of our current issues arise because increasingly greater segments of our nation have no family members who have ever served. This reduces the stake that our nation as a whole has in the necessary evil of war, and it also reduces the overall empathy for those who serve.

3) A draft will reduce the need to entice non-American aliens to serve due to manpower shortages.

4) Currently, the Southeast comprises the bulk of those who volunteer to serve. This is a remarkably unfair allocation of military personnel relative to the whole country.

5) The military is currently host to an immense bureaucracy. A draft ensures that we get non-bureaucrats.

And more.

15 posted on 05/31/2018 9:53:15 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Currently, the Southeast comprises the bulk of those who volunteer to serve. This is a remarkably unfair allocation of military personnel relative to the whole country.

MY point in post #12. Liberals are uneasy about a military that does not share their politics.

17 posted on 05/31/2018 9:57:41 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

He doesn’t sound very intelligent. He sounds like one of those guys who thinks he knows what’s best for everybody else, and how they should live their life. Him being a soldier doesn’t cut any ice with me, or a lot of people.


20 posted on 05/31/2018 10:02:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
I didn't check your link for the full piece, but the five items you posted are seriously flawed.

1. This point completely overlooks an even bigger problem: We had no business fighting most of the wars we've been involved with in lifetime. Drafting people to fight wars like this doesn't solve the problem posted in #1.

2. See #1. I would add that a large standing Federal army -- especially one that is dispersed all over the world in places where Congress has never declared war -- has no justification on constitutional grounds.

3. This is very typical of what you find in an empire, not a sovereign nation. This points to a much bigger problem that isn't going to be solved with a draft.

4. There's nothing "unfair" about this at all. Tell the people in the Southeast to stop enlisting.

5. See #2. The best way to eliminate military bureaucrats is to eliminate our standing army almost entirely. If it's not repelling the invasion across our southern border than it is useless anyway. The term "military career" should disappear from our lexicon.

23 posted on 05/31/2018 10:09:56 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I’ve got a funny idea on how to raise an army. I’m constantly hearing about Adam Smith, capitalism, the free market, Etc. How’s about we pay the salary that it takes to attract the people you need? Pay a PFC 80,000 a year, and you can pick and choose the best ones. A draft is nothing more than an attempt to pay far below Market wages for the work required.


24 posted on 05/31/2018 10:11:25 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Point one shows just how stupid the writer is

Take a look at WWII.......take a look at the enlistment rate after 9/11


27 posted on 05/31/2018 10:16:05 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

#5 is wayyyy off base. Yes, there is a ‘military bureaucracy. But even in a Draft force it won’t be made up of draftees. The bureaucracy is made up of officers and very senior NCO’s, which virtually excludes the possibility of draftee origins.


52 posted on 06/01/2018 3:57:35 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I disagree with all the points you listed.

For example: “An eagerness to partake in the activities of war is not necessarily good.”

If we have to go to war, one we actually need to win such as an armed invasion of our own countries borders (not the current illegal one), then we need people already in uniform that go to work without hesitation. We need loyal risk takers.

In a real all out war, who’d you rather have defending your area, a bunch of leftward indoctrinees scared of their own shadow, or a bunch of loyal men willing to brutally murder their opponents?


56 posted on 06/01/2018 4:36:48 AM PDT by redfreedom
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