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NTSB Report On Fatal Uber Crash In Tempe Arizona
NTSB ^ | 05/24/2018 | NTSB

Posted on 05/24/2018 9:05:03 PM PDT by Moonman62

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1 posted on 05/24/2018 9:05:04 PM PDT by Moonman62
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the self-driving system software classified the pedestrian as an unknown object, as a vehicle, and then as a bicycle with varying expectations of future travel path

Anyone looking at the poor quality video (and the actual video was better) would instantly recognize a woman walking a bike. The object recognition is not ready for the real world and probably won't be for another decade or two.

2 posted on 05/24/2018 9:09:02 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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The radar and LIDAR sound pretty useful for anticipating pedestrians and cyclists. Not sure if the display actually showed the driver that someone was approaching, though, even though the sensors appeared to have detected her 6 seconds before impact.


3 posted on 05/24/2018 9:11:32 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.)
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The deep state is determined to push this technology regardless of the number of casualties.

They want to make it illegal for human beings to drive ordinary passenger cars.

Driving a passenger car on public roads is a privilege, not a right protected by the Constitution.


4 posted on 05/24/2018 9:14:00 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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“The videos also show that the pedestrian, once visible, did not look in the direction of the vehicle until just before impact.”

Simple. Look both ways before crossing the street.


5 posted on 05/24/2018 9:14:53 PM PDT by moovova
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Also, it seems that a collision with anything should have been grounds for an avoidance and braking. I cannot guess why software engineers would want a system under development to not activate emergency procedures in the event of an eminent collision. The concept of avoiding erratic driving does not really make sense, since the software would in theory make the best of the situation.

Or else as you post, the system is not ready for prime time. In which case why would it be tested on actual roads? With actual pedestrians with bicycles?


6 posted on 05/24/2018 9:15:47 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom
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Simple. Look both ways before crossing the street.

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And don’t be high on meth and pot.


7 posted on 05/24/2018 9:16:50 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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And don’t wear dark clothes when doing it.


8 posted on 05/24/2018 9:18:00 PM PDT by Dennis M.
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Or else as you post, the system is not ready for prime time.

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It’s not. That’s why there was a safety driver and the emergency braking was disabled. It does seem that an audible alert would have been helpful, though.


9 posted on 05/24/2018 9:19:23 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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And don’t cross the road where there are signs saying not to cross the road.


10 posted on 05/24/2018 9:20:05 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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There’s no market demand for driverless other than from the CIA assassins’ guild.


11 posted on 05/24/2018 9:22:35 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
" I cannot guess why software engineers would want a system under development to not activate emergency procedures in the event of an eminent collision."

I think it is because the cameras will see a shadow, slam on the brakes and cause many accidents. Instead they are relying on accurate object detection, which doesn't exist (yet), and stopping for known objects.

12 posted on 05/24/2018 9:23:16 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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I was wondering what was up with this ‘self driving cars’ rubbish. It was astonishing, to me, that people had become so lazy that they don’t even want to drive their own cars anymore. All the money being pissed away on this foolishness could certainly be put to better use.


13 posted on 05/24/2018 9:23:24 PM PDT by punchamullah
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Or don’t cross any streets that have deadly driverless cars on them.


14 posted on 05/24/2018 9:25:21 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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"Driving a passenger car on public roads is a privilege, not a right protected by the Constitution."

Then let the cars finance and build their own highways and streets.

15 posted on 05/24/2018 9:29:59 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Thank God for Donald J. Trump- El Presidente Por La Vida !!)
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To: punchamullah

Almost 40,000 people die in traffic accidents every year in the United States.

The idea is that eventually self driving cars, or cars with some type of autopilot will be much safer.


16 posted on 05/24/2018 9:32:12 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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“The operator can transition from computer control to manual control by providing input to the steering wheel, brake pedal, accelerator pedal, a disengage button, or a disable button.

The vehicle was factory equipped with several advanced driver assistance functions by Volvo Cars, the original manufacturer. The systems included a collision avoidance function with automatic emergency braking, known as City Safety, as well as functions for detecting driver alertness and road sign information. All these Volvo functions are disabled when the test vehicle is operated in computer control but are operational when the vehicle is operated in manual control.

According to Uber, the developmental self-driving system relies on an attentive operator to intervene if the system fails to perform appropriately during testing. In addition, the operator is responsible for monitoring diagnostic messages that appear on an interface in the center stack of the vehicle dash and tagging events of interest for subsequent review.


all this tells me self driving cars at this point are pretty stupid and really require a person driving it.


17 posted on 05/24/2018 9:32:30 PM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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Anyone looking at the poor quality video (and the actual video was better) would instantly recognize a woman walking a bike.

That woman was also drunk (and an ex-con for numerous thefts and drug crimes) who did not once look to see if a car was coming, despite walking across a busy road away from a crosswalk and away from overhead lights.

18 posted on 05/24/2018 9:33:15 PM PDT by montag813
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And in SIX SECONDS did nothing to avoid killing the woman. The driver was busy was readouts instead of the road. Park these cars!


19 posted on 05/24/2018 9:33:50 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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They keep getting better, and Waymo has some cars now that have no safety driver.


20 posted on 05/24/2018 9:34:23 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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