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1 posted on 05/24/2018 9:05:04 PM PDT by Moonman62
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the self-driving system software classified the pedestrian as an unknown object, as a vehicle, and then as a bicycle with varying expectations of future travel path

Anyone looking at the poor quality video (and the actual video was better) would instantly recognize a woman walking a bike. The object recognition is not ready for the real world and probably won't be for another decade or two.

2 posted on 05/24/2018 9:09:02 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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The radar and LIDAR sound pretty useful for anticipating pedestrians and cyclists. Not sure if the display actually showed the driver that someone was approaching, though, even though the sensors appeared to have detected her 6 seconds before impact.


3 posted on 05/24/2018 9:11:32 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.)
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The deep state is determined to push this technology regardless of the number of casualties.

They want to make it illegal for human beings to drive ordinary passenger cars.

Driving a passenger car on public roads is a privilege, not a right protected by the Constitution.


4 posted on 05/24/2018 9:14:00 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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“The videos also show that the pedestrian, once visible, did not look in the direction of the vehicle until just before impact.”

Simple. Look both ways before crossing the street.


5 posted on 05/24/2018 9:14:53 PM PDT by moovova
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“The operator can transition from computer control to manual control by providing input to the steering wheel, brake pedal, accelerator pedal, a disengage button, or a disable button.

The vehicle was factory equipped with several advanced driver assistance functions by Volvo Cars, the original manufacturer. The systems included a collision avoidance function with automatic emergency braking, known as City Safety, as well as functions for detecting driver alertness and road sign information. All these Volvo functions are disabled when the test vehicle is operated in computer control but are operational when the vehicle is operated in manual control.

According to Uber, the developmental self-driving system relies on an attentive operator to intervene if the system fails to perform appropriately during testing. In addition, the operator is responsible for monitoring diagnostic messages that appear on an interface in the center stack of the vehicle dash and tagging events of interest for subsequent review.


all this tells me self driving cars at this point are pretty stupid and really require a person driving it.


17 posted on 05/24/2018 9:32:30 PM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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The car had 6 seconds to brake....the woman driver was not paying attention

Bottom line.... no thanks


24 posted on 05/24/2018 9:55:09 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Detected over 6 seconds prior to impact and the vehicle never braked until about 1 second after impact? And it took nearly 5 seconds for the system to figure out a braking emergency was needed?

I’d guess if an alert driver was operating the vehicle they could have possibly avoided striking the bicyclist by swerving/braking.


28 posted on 05/24/2018 10:34:21 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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In other words, according to this report, the vehicle never braked prior to impact.

No good, no matter how ya chop it up.


29 posted on 05/24/2018 10:36:01 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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According to Uber, emergency braking maneuvers are not enabled while the vehicle is under computer control, to reduce the potential for erratic vehicle behavior.

So the computer control was simply turned off. I though there must have been a serious system malfunction, but in fact, the failure to brake was a consequence of a risky company policy.

However, even if the computer had been controlling the car, the pedestrian might have been killed. The (disconnected) computer required 4.7 seconds after first noticing the woman and her bike to decide that emergency braking should begin. That's just too slow.

Was the driver informed that this was the way the system worked?

36 posted on 05/24/2018 11:32:58 PM PDT by TChad
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“According to data obtained from the self-driving system, the system first registered radar and LIDAR observations of the pedestrian about 6 seconds before impact, when the vehicle was traveling at 43 mph. As the vehicle and pedestrian paths converged, the self-driving system software classified the pedestrian as an unknown object, as a vehicle, and then as a bicycle with varying expectations of future travel path. At 1.3 seconds before impact, the self-driving system determined that an emergency braking maneuver was needed to mitigate a collision (see figure 2).[2] According to Uber, emergency braking maneuvers are not enabled while the vehicle is under computer control, to reduce the potential for erratic vehicle behavior. The vehicle operator is relied on to intervene and take action. The system is not designed to alert the operator.”

This is wht Uber did to get rid fo the “jerkiness” that these vehicles have. They backed off the computer’s emergency braking functions.

Computer controlled vehicles tend to be programmed to be paranoid about pedestrians and vehicles, such that they frequently tap the brakes when a human would not. This causes a “jerky” ride.

Uber didn’t want this “jerky” ride, so they watered down the computer’s paranoia.


43 posted on 05/25/2018 5:10:24 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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Common sense tells you this whole thing is a bad idea. Too many variables that just can’t be programmed for. It’ll be scrapped after enough people die and millions are paid out in lawsuits.


58 posted on 05/25/2018 7:37:40 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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