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Five Things That Won’t Stop School Shootings and the One That Will
Townhall.com ^ | May 21, 2018 | Joy Overbeck

Posted on 05/21/2018 9:42:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

As the horrific events at Santa Fe High school unfolded, all the usual experts popped up on TV panels and interviews once again recycling their “never again” and “we’ve-gotta-do-something” solutions. These are respected authorities like former DOJ special agents, sheriffs, former NYPD detectives, and parents of children killed in previous school shootings.   And not one single thing they recommended to stop school massacres will work.

His schoolmates knew he was nuts. Yet over a year ago the 19-year-old  somehow passed “background checks” and legally purchased the rifle he used to kill 15 students, a teacher and a coach at the school from which he had been expelled. In response to their failure, the FBI has promised to “take corrective actions.” And the Florida legislature passed a law that you must be 21 to buy a firearm.  Yeah that’ll help.  

In a larger context, most of the privacy laws in the nation would need to be erased in order to access an individual’s medical or psychological records. And, honestly, is there a teenager who doesn’t have mental health problems? These are young people in the emotional maelstrom years. Exacerbating their immaturity, confusion and psycho drama, they often smoke weed which is six or seven times as strong as their parents’ weed and hardly conducive to metal stability. These kids eat Tide detergent pods and steal their parents’ meds. They are tossed and tormented by their chaos-inciting hormones. They play video games that give them instructive practical target practice in annihilating enemies – rehearsal for real life school massacres. And good luck with the entertainment industry scaling back video or film violence out of the goodness of their hearts.

None of these fixes have worked in the past, and none of them will work in the future. It takes but a minimum of common sense to realize the only way to stop a murderer shooting school-kids is another shooter who threatens or kills the murder. The timeline is quick; most often the killing is over before law enforcement can respond. It takes only moments to kill lots of people. The average time of these lethal events is 3 to 4 minutes – it took the Parkland shooter under seven minutes to take 17 human lives. And since the killing takes place inside the school, it only makes sense that’s where the defenders must be.

The only intelligent, sane voice was Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick who said on the Friday of the shooting he and Governor Abbott visited the wounded and their parents and classmates who “all to a person said ‘our teachers should be armed.’” Patrick speculated that an ex-Marine who taught in the classroom adjacent to the one the killer shot up may have been able to stop the shooter had he been armed. Though there were two armed officers on the campus, Patrick pointed out “four or five guns to one” is preferable to one or two. 

Leftists who refuse to allow willing and well-trained teachers to protect their students reveal to all that their compassion is nothing but hollow hypocrisy. What parent in the world wouldn’t rather their child have a chance against a killer instead of being shot dead cowering in a closet, like those poor kids in Texas.  

Teachers are already protecting their kids with their bodies and dying along with them – two at Santa Fe High School, two at Parkland, and six at Sandy Hook. Yet their union leaders like American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten are more than willing to sacrifice the lives of the 1.7 million educators the AFT represents to gun-hating liberal mythology. 

Following President Trump’s proposal to arm teachers after Parkland, this woman said she spoke to 60,000 educators in a telephone town hall. “The response was universal,” she insisted, “even from educators who are gun owners. Teachers don’t want to be armed…we would never have the expertise to be sharp shooters…”  And her preposterous drivel continues: “would kindergarten teachers be carrying guns in holsters? When you have seconds to act...is a teacher supposed to use those seconds getting her gun instead of getting her students to safety?” 

But when a school suddenly becomes a war zone, there is no safety except behind a teacher or staff member with a gun. And Weingarten is wrong about teachers being unwilling to defend their students and themselves; they’re not nearly as suicidal as their union boss thinks. In a March 5-8 poll Gallup found that about one in five teachers would take their school district’s required training and carry a firearm in their schools. One-quarter of all the teachers currently own a gun, and unsurprisingly they were four times more likely than those who don’t to volunteer to be trained to carry in school. While the left promotes the lie that teachers just are too incompetent to defend their charges, two-thirds of those who want to carry said they are very confident they would be effective in a shooter situation, while one-quarter are somewhat confident. Since they already own guns, some for many years, they’re not self-defense newbies nor are they likely to believe leftist anti-gun propaganda and prejudice. Think: If one in five classrooms has an armed teacher, the odds for students’ survival dramatically improve.  

In another March Gallup poll, the number of people who thought arming teachers and other school officials would be effective in stopping school shootings (47%) were exactly even with those who didn’t (53%) when accounting for the 3% margin of error. 

Despite the media’s mocking and belittling arming teachers as dangerous and foolhardy, those who have actually dealt with these tragedies rejected leftist irrationality when the Parkland victims’ family members all signed a statement supporting the Florida bill that, among other things, provides millions for training and arming teachers

The terrible irony is that since 2012 Texas has been one of the 30 states allowing trained and willing teachers to carry firearms in their schools. Yet only about 170 school districts out of the over 1,000 in the state have authorized these programs. And Santa Fe isn’t one of them.



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1 posted on 05/21/2018 9:42:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Arm the Teachers.


2 posted on 05/21/2018 9:49:13 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Kaslin

Armed teachers. Controversial to liberals.

Who are OK with having teen girls shot in the head because of their irrational fear of school teachers protecting them with guns.

What a crazy world we live in.


3 posted on 05/21/2018 9:50:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who AlbertLives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Arm the Teachers.

allow ... not require ...

4 posted on 05/21/2018 9:53:47 AM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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Broward school shooter Nikolas Cruz was for years a veritable parade of red flags.

<><>Twice the FBI failed to follow up on alarming tips – when Cruz vowed on social media “to be a professional school shooter.”

<><> local police made 39 trips to his home because of violent and erratic behavior.

<><> Even his schoolmates knew he was nuts.

Yet the 19-year-old somehow (A) passed “background checks,” and, (B) legally purchased the rifle he used to kill 15 students, a teacher and a coach.

Bleeding heart Obama weighed in by monetizing the "hands-off minorities" program for which Broward collected $53 million federal dollars.

The braindead NAACP also weighed in to protect minorities....thus, aiding and abetting the massacre.

5 posted on 05/21/2018 9:54:26 AM PDT by Liz
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To: bankwalker

Require.

I want Gov. Abbot and the District Attorney to resign for not require Galveston to arm its teachers.

How many more lives have to be taken before our leaders stand up to the Left?


6 posted on 05/21/2018 9:56:03 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who AlbertLives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kaslin
While the left promotes the lie that teachers just are too incompetent to defend their charges...

If they are too incompetent to carry, then they are too incompetent to teach.

7 posted on 05/21/2018 9:56:27 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Kaslin

Sorry Joy you are wrong. In the seventies I attended a high school that made national news for being shut down because of violent race riots. The following year it was reopened and the entire student body (1500) kids entered through one portal past armed security (remember this was the seventies, not long after Kent state). The sense of security was prevalent, and the regiment made the bad actors very docile while on campus. While I think having armed staff is a good idea, you must temper that by looking at the faculty in these schools. How are a bunch of progressives (mostly women ) going to handle being the vanguard of security. Controlling access is the key ( pro-action not re-action).


8 posted on 05/21/2018 9:58:53 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Kaslin

9 posted on 05/21/2018 9:59:11 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Kaslin
“would kindergarten teachers be carrying guns in holsters? When you have seconds to act...is a teacher supposed to use those seconds getting her gun instead of getting her students to safety?”

How quickly can a class of 30 kindergartners move to safety, and how far can they move in "seconds to act"? My .45 responds at 900 fps. For the longest straight line of sight in my local elementary school, that is 1/6 of a second. I'll go with the .45 every time.

10 posted on 05/21/2018 10:00:44 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Kaslin

I would add, cameras in every classroom and hallway. Classroom cameras would be with sound so parents could also see what is being taught to their kids.


11 posted on 05/21/2018 10:00:50 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Kaslin

The reason you’ll never get approval to arm some of the teachers is twofold:

First, you’re dealing with a true and deep phobia. Leftists FEAR the object, the gun, irrationally.

Second: leftists want TOTAL CONFISCATION of all privately-held weapons, and can not admit to them being an effective deterrent to a mad shooter. Secretly, they fear they can not ram the full socialist agenda down the country’s throat as long as any credible ultimate means of resistance still exists.


12 posted on 05/21/2018 10:02:19 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: Kaslin

Close the schools. These schools are far to big to manage students safely. Home schools, computer schools, small charter and magnet schools would be much better. But since we really just want someone to babysit and socialize our kids, this is what we have.


13 posted on 05/21/2018 10:02:46 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Kaslin

***Leftists who refuse to allow willing and well-trained teachers to protect their students reveal to all that their compassion is nothing but hollow hypocrisy. ***

Much like they did in the 1960s and 70s when plane hijackings were happening. They wanted new laws to prevent it, but NO GUNS! NO ARMED PILOTS! NO ARMED GUARDS!


14 posted on 05/21/2018 10:02:56 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: bankwalker

Definitely allow. My 5 foot tall wife was a teacher for 38 years. She wouldn’t know the business end of a gun from a hole in the ground.

And the possibility that a student might take her weapon if she had one is real. Even though she taught 6 year olds.

lol


15 posted on 05/21/2018 10:03:33 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; 2ndDivisionVet; azishot; ...

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16 posted on 05/21/2018 10:07:39 AM PDT by bitt (t)
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To: goldstategop; All
What's really silly is that most of those kids, as they visit their friends or travel in cars driven by their friends' parents, are in close proximity to loaded, readily available firearms at least a quarter of the time and don't get shot or even threatened with a gun. Shall issue CCW has worked wherever it's been implemented; there's simply no logical reason why it wouldn't work as well in schools.
17 posted on 05/21/2018 10:07:54 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: bankwalker

Agree. With annual or biannual training


18 posted on 05/21/2018 10:10:36 AM PDT by Blogger (The causes are the left are never about caring about an issue. ItÂ’s always about power.)
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To: Kaslin

Close the warehouses. Complete separation of education and government. Private pay or private charity.


19 posted on 05/21/2018 10:11:03 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I have the easiest life in the history of the world.)
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To: rjsimmon

If they are too incompetent to carry, then they are too incompetent to teach.

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Rethink that. You really want a bunch of middle aged gals who have no business carrying with the opportunity of a punk twice their size blindsiding them just to get their weapon?

My wife was a very competent teacher for 38 years. All 5 feet of her. She would never have been a highly trained weaponized deterrent. Nor should she have been.


20 posted on 05/21/2018 10:11:31 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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