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Column: Immigrants in the U.S. illegally make us safer
Chicago Tribune ^ | May 9, 2018 | by Steve Chapman

Posted on 05/10/2018 12:34:55 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The left is always willing to bow down, bend over, and get on its knees for NON-AMERICAN violent bastards, provided they are not WHITE. Here the rag paper is telling us that getting raped, burned or decapitated is good for you.
I hope that the turds at the chicago tribune get to experience first hand the wonderful things that ms13 or muzzy immigrants can do for them.


21 posted on 05/10/2018 1:12:05 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism is the denial of human nature.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

...with the exception of the thousands of American citizens who have been murdered by these outlaws. Their families have been separated from them forever.


22 posted on 05/10/2018 1:12:46 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

To the idiots at the Chicago Tribune: Illegal immigrants in the U.S. are criminals. Criminals do not make anyone safer. Those who commit crimes should be arrested, yes? And the ultimate penalty for breaking into our country should be deportation, yes? And if those who break into our country break other laws, they should be jailed, then deported, yes? What is not to understand?


23 posted on 05/10/2018 1:19:47 PM PDT by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Learn English? Seriously? I know people who have been here 20 years and they barely speak enough English to order breakfast at a drive thru.


24 posted on 05/10/2018 1:21:51 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I wonder how many murders Chicago would have if there were no illegal immigrants?


25 posted on 05/10/2018 1:27:21 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen ((Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong))
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I wonder how many murders Chicago would have if there were no illegal immigrants?

About the same. It isn't illegal immigrants murdering people in Chicago.

26 posted on 05/10/2018 1:33:41 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

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27 posted on 05/10/2018 1:34:05 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Lurkinanloomin
How could fraudulently documented foreigners make US safer?

Because illegal Latinos are not as violent as native born black Americans, with an increase in the population of illegals while everyone else remains static, the crime rate will decrease.

It's an inventive stretch of mathematics.

28 posted on 05/10/2018 1:37:14 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Pegged my BS meter, HE DID!


29 posted on 05/10/2018 1:46:09 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

LOL, no one believes anything out of the Chicago tribune.


30 posted on 05/10/2018 1:46:56 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Trillian

How dare the tribune have trees murdered so they can print their lies and uncivil spew. Have they no concern for Mother Nature?


31 posted on 05/10/2018 2:15:22 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: IC Ken

They ABSOLUTELY understand it. They just don’t want YOU to understand it so they try every verbal trick from “Undocumented” to “pre-citizens” and any other BS they can to confuse the issue. They are lying. They know it. They don’t care. They WANT to have them here to import more Democrat voters, and they don’t give on rat’s tail if an American gets killed for it.


32 posted on 05/10/2018 2:24:03 PM PDT by spacewarp (FreeRepublic, Rush's show prep since foundation.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He is using a study comparing declining crime to increasing illegal population.
Apparently, his sources missed the lecture on “Correlation is not Causation.”
What counts is the number of illegals who commit crimes - 100%.


33 posted on 05/10/2018 2:39:12 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

It is painfully obvious that this writer has never been in a physical situation where he had to think about whether he was ‘safe’ or not.

I moved from So Calif 25 years ago Monday—May 6th. I had lived there for 29 years. The very last straw for me was this incident:

I am a self-employed bookkeeper. I was on my way to a client about 8 AM- less than 2 miles from my house. I had to stop on Parthenia Street, just east of Roscoe Blvd. for a stoplight. I was driving a 1972 Honda 600- the first Honda brought to the USA, with a 600 CC engine. Loved that car- but this incident made me think again.....

As I was sitting, waiting for the light to change, 9 illegals surrounded my car, shouting for day work for cash & panhandling. Slapping the car & being pretty aggressive-—in broad daylight. I had all the windows up, the doors locked, and that car had NO AC. There were enough of them to actually PICK UP THE CAR, WITH ME INSIDE, & TO WALK AWAY WITH ALL OF IT. That scared the hell out of me.

When I got to my client- 3 blocks later, he asked what was wrong, I was white as a sheet. I am NOT a sissy, & he knew that. I told him what had happened. He said call the cops, but since I was alone in the car, I didn’t have any witnesses.

That was the trigger——I called a friend of mine who worked for Bekins Moving & told him to come give me a bid. I was going to my other property in N Calif, which had just lost the renter.

IF this writer thinks having illegals in the USA makes us safer, I want them to get into the fray & find out how wrong they are. Easy to write about something from the safety of their high rise & behind doormen.

This incident was 25 years ago-—and I have since left California totally & I won’t go back.


34 posted on 05/10/2018 2:47:30 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Steve Chapman is the typical elitist prick who doesn’t live in the middle of the decay that massive illegal immigration has brought to huge sections of California. And there’s jerks of his sort in both parties.

“They will fill jobs that Americans don’t want, learn English, pay taxes and stay out of trouble”

“Jobs Americans Don’t Want”- you know, jobs that Chapman or Dubya or any of their ilk can’t imagine doing. The only time they get their hands dirty is when their pen leaks.


35 posted on 05/10/2018 2:49:55 PM PDT by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This is the same twisted logic they tried when they said giving illegal aliens drivers licenses would make the roads safer.

-PJ

36 posted on 05/10/2018 2:50:00 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They take jobs that chaep labor employers won’t give to Americans to whom they would have to pay a fair wage.

They speak in their native language and don’t bother to learn English, the language of patriarchal colonial oppressors, or in any way adapt to the Anglo heritage of the country.

They bring diseases that are then spread to citizens.


37 posted on 05/10/2018 3:07:29 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: ridesthemiles

California has essentially become a colony of Mexico.
Their state government sides with the illegal aliens against the US citizens and the rule of law.


38 posted on 05/10/2018 4:53:05 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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25 Disturbing Facts About Refugee Resettlements from Somalia-How terror arrives on American shores
Frontpagemagazine ^ | February 15, 2018 | Leo Hohmann / FR Posted on 2/15/2018 by SJackson

Of the 11 countries included in President Trump’s refugee ban, one stands out — Somalia. That ban expired two weeks ago and the U.S. has begun accepting refugees again from Somalia and 10 other high-risk nations.

Although Trump promises “extreme vetting,” many Muslim refugees come as children and become radicalized years later.

Somali crime rivals Somali terrorism as a major problem, and the two clearly blur into one another. The problem is leaking from Minnesota into South Dakota — as Lutheran Social Services has resettled more than 4,500 Somalis in Sioux Falls. Many of the Somalis have migrated from Sioux Falls to the city of Aberdeen in search of work at Demkota Ranch Co.’s beef-packing plant.

South Dakota State Senator and GOP congressional candidate Neal Tapio is leading perhaps the nation’s most aggressive effort to expose the danger and fraud of refugee resettlements. Tapio has introduced several bills that seek to rein in high-risk resettlements in his state.
“While many people see compassion to serve the less fortunate, the truth is the Somali community has not been able to assimilate and has proven to be a major terror threat in the United States,” Tapio said.

Consider the following 25 incidents that should raise red flags about refugee resettlement from this perpetually war-torn country:

[1] The Somali man who knifed two men in November at the Mall of America was not involved in an attempt to steal clothing – a false narrative put out by Bloomington police – but was actually carrying out jihad. He admitted it in a detailed statement to the court. Mahad Abdiraham said he went to the mall that day to “answer the call for jihad.”

[2] A Somali refugee who had just arrived in Aberdeen for a meatpacking job was convicted last year of trying to sexually assault a wheelchair-bound woman at a group home. Liban Mohamed, 39, found the vulnerable woman sitting outside the home and he was caught reaching up between her legs.

[3] Also in Aberdeen, Abdirhman Noor, 24, shot at two men outside the Foxridge Apartments, wounding one critically. Noor, who came to the U.S. as a child refugee, was charged with attempted murder and released on $50,000 bail. He never showed up for his March 2017 court hearing and remains at large.

[4] A 73-year-old Meals on Wheels volunteer was dropping off meals at a homeless shelter in Shelburne, Vermont, when she was attacked by 32-year-old Somali migrant Abukar Ibrahim with a machete in early January 2018. She sustained multiple injuries including a severe leg wound.

[5] Tnuza Jamal Hassan, a 19-year-old woman from either
Somalia or Ethiopia (Minneapolis police wouldn’t release her status), was arraigned last month on charges of first-degree arson after she allegedly set fires on the campus of St. Catherine University. Hassan told police she “wanted the school to burn to the ground” and that her intent was to “hurt people,” according to charges filed in Ramsey County District Court. Hassan told police she had written a letter to her roommates containing “radical ideas about supporting Muslims and bringing back the caliphate.” The prosecution further alleges “[s]he told the police and fire investigators ‘You guys are lucky I don’t know how to build a bomb because I would have done that,’” the Star-Tribune reported.

[6] Morgan Evenson, 24, was attacked just before Christmas while walking home from work in Minneapolis. She was stabbed 14 times by a man described as Somali. That man remains at large and the Minneapolis police falsely described the attack as a failed robbery. Evenson said he never reached for her purse.

[7] On July 15, 2017, a Somali refugee serving as a Minneapolis police officer, Mohamed Noor, shot and killed an unarmed woman, Justine Damond, who had called 9-1-1 to report a rape taking place outside her apartment. No charges have been filed against Noor, who had three previous complaints about his treatment of women while on patrol.

[8] Dahir Ahmed Adan stabbed 10 shoppers at the Crossroads Mall in St. Cloud, Minnesota, on Sept. 17, 2016. The refugee asked shoppers if they were Muslim. If they said “no,” he attacked them with his knife, until he was shot dead by an off-duty cop.

[9] In December 2016, Somali refugee Mohamed Ayanle, 22, was charged with first- and third-degree criminal sexual conduct after he allegedly raped a woman while riding a bus through Polk County, Minnesota. Ayanle reportedly forced her to have sex with him at knifepoint in the back of the bus. Ayanle had just arrived in Minnesota from Somalia three months prior to his arrest.

[10] Davee Devose, a promising 21-year-old black student at St. Cloud Technical and Community College, was stabbed to death at a house party in June 2015 by then-16-year-old Muhiyadin Mohamed Hassan, a Somali refugee who violated his juvenile probation and has since been moved to the adult system.

[11] In 2008, the government revealed thousands of Somali families had fraudulently entered the U.S. as “refugees” by lying on their applications that they were to Somalis already living in the U.S. The Wall Street Journal originally reported on how this fraud was uncovered by DNA tests, which led to a four-year closure of the so-called P-3 family reunification program for refugees coming from East Africa. The program was eventually restarted and none of the thousands of Somalis proven to have entered the U.S. by these fraudulent means were ever deported.

[12] On the day after Memorial Day, May 31, 2016, in Lawrenceville, Georgia, a Somali refugee woman, Aisha Ibrahim, 31, appeared out of the woods wearing a burqa and beat an American woman with her own American flagpole.

[13] A federal appeals court in December 2016 upheld the conviction of Mohamed Mohamud, the Somali refugee sentenced to 30 years in prison for plotting to bomb downtown Portland, Oregon, during the annual Christmas-tree lighting.

[14] In 2013, Somali refugee Omar Mohamed Kalmio in North Dakota was sentenced to life in prison for the 2011 murder of a Native American family he had become involved with.
[15] In November 2016, Abdul R. Ali Artan, an 18-year-old
Somali refugee and student at Ohio State University, wounded 11 people at OSU in a car and knife attack. Minutes before his attack, Artan posted on Facebook his hatred for the United States.

[16] In April 2011, Somali refugee Said Biyad was sentenced to life in prison for murdering his four children in Louisville, Kentucky. He avoided the death penalty by taking a plea agreement.

[17] In July of last year, Somalia native Abdinzak Ahmed Farah, 29, was arrested and charged with threatening his fellow Minnesotans with a knife. According to an eyewitness, Farah was eating raw beef with the knife and holding it out to patrons, asking them to play games. In a July 25 article, the Faribault Daily News reports a complaint filed in Rice County Court alleges Farah was pointing a knife and threatening to kill anyone who called police. Witnesses said Farah was twice told to leave, but began chasing several people and threw the knife at them.

[18] At least 40 Somali refugees have left the country to join overseas terrorist organizations such as al-Shabaab in Somalia and ISIS in Syria, the FBI has confirmed. Dozens of others have been charged and/or convicted of providing material support to terrorists.

[19] One of the top terror recruiters for ISIS in the U.S. was Mohamed Hassan, a Somali refugee with roots in Minnesota. He turned himself in to authorities in Somalia in late 2015, after leading dozens of Somali-Americans to join ISIS. He also played a role in the terror attack on Garland, Texas, in which two Muslims planned to kill participants in a “Draw Muhammad” contest and behead activist Pamela Geller.

[20] Dozens of large-scale khat busts have taken place in recent years, such as this seizure of 69 pounds of khat at the Philadelphia airport bound for Minneapolis, and this one sending nearly 20 pounds to Minneapolis. Khat is a stimulant chewed by Somali men.

[21] In June 2016, residents of the Linden Hills community in Minneapolis were terrorized by a Somali mob for three straight days. They raided the waterfront community and pretending to shoot women on the beach, ran their cars over lawns while screaming “jihad,” threatened to rape one woman and beat one resident’s dog. Police were called repeatedly but never could make it to the scene before the Somalis disappeared.

[22] Minneapolis Police Department has for years tolerated an active Sharia cop, who married a Somali woman and patrols the Cedar Riverside area making sure Somalis are complying with Islamic dress codes and other Sharia rules.

[23] Liban Haji Mohamed, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Somalia who came to the U.S. as a child refugee, was named to the FBI’s list of Most Wanted Terrorists in January 2015. Mohamed, who worked as a cab driver in northern Virginia, was charged with providing material support and resources to al-Qaeda and al-Shabaab.

[24] In May 2015, a UK media outlet broke the story that one of the Islamic State’s major recruiters turned out to be a female journalism student in Seattle who liked football, cheeseburgers, and convincing women in Syria and the EU to wage jihad. The student, a Somali named Rawdah Abdisalaam, was discovered to be working as a senior recruiter while living the good life in Seattle.

[25] In January 2014, Somali refugee Ahmed Nasir Taalil, living in San Diego, was sentenced to six years for his part in a conspiracy to funnel money to al-Shabaab. Among Nasir-Nasir’s co-conspirators were cab driver Basaaly Saeed Moalin, who was sentenced to 18 years, Mohamed Mohamud – a Somali imam at a local mosque – sentenced to 13 years, and Issa Doreh, who was sentenced to 10 years for working at a money-transmitting business that helped move the illegal funds.

Refugee proponents, many of them working for resettlement agencies that receive government tax dollars for every refugee they bring into the U.S., continue to allege that Somalis are an asset to the communities in which they live.

But those communities deserve security too. Now that the refugee ban has expired, it is time that the clear issues of lack of assimilation and terror risks posed by many Somali refugees are taken seriously.


39 posted on 05/12/2018 4:57:09 PM PDT by Liz
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