The overwhelming majority of the American people of all political stripes are sick and tired of the failed DOJ/FBI leadership...who should all be fired immediately and thrown into jail....period. Mueller, Sessions, Rosenstein, Comey, etc. are hated by the American people from A-Z!!!
Mueller must be kicking his own ass for this one. Desperation makes mistakes.
Pettifoggery; succinct...
Either Mueller is really STUPID or he is a CRIMINAL!!!
Wether properly served or not, if you show up in Court on the day ion question, BY LAW you are Deemed to have been served.
The Judge should Hold the prosecution in CONTEMPT for their filing alone questioning the service.
Mueller about to receive a lesson on how to play hard ball but he wants to play duck dodge and run.
Everything we have seen from Mueller so far falls into one of two categories. First, attempts to charge Trump associates with crimes to put pressure on them to turn on Trump. Second, To indict someone, whether for cause or not, with the intent of keeping the narrative going that there must be something there otherwise Mueller wouldn’t indict. The problem with both of these is that Mueller is not ethical and is as corrupt as Comey, McCabe and the rest. Look at Mueller’s actions in the past as FBI director and before that and you will see exactly what I am talking about.
I wonder if the Russians might not be more clever than Mueller. For whatever reason, the Special Prosecutor is complicating the issue and seeking to protract the proceedings.
Mueller, DOJ, and FBI go after these 13 Russians for no reason whatsoever, except that she lost. Right? Mueller, et al, say that it was a coordinated effort to influence the election. Isn’t every campaign ad an attempt to influence the election? Anywho....
Tensions with Russia are growing. Let’s say that these 13 guys had absolutely no connection to Putin, in any way shape or form. I’ll be they do now. What better way for Putin to kick the US in the nuts, than to assist these 13 in their case. If Mueller, et al, are dirty from Uranium 1, is it possible that Mueller/Rosenstein opened up a can of worms they never saw before? There’s no telling what kind of dirt the Russians may have on any of these clowns.
Mueller, et al, thought they were so clever and their arrogance blinded them to this point. I think a very powerful storm is brewing and it ain’t looking good for Mueller.
This very probe is strengthening Russia’s hand and will undermine U.S. interests...that was already evident - the Russians wanted to undermine our confidence in our own systems and institutions - the rumors and hyperbole spread by the Democrats and the media accomplished that beyond anything Russia did or tried to do. Now this - bogus indictments designed just to create media buzz the defendants are actually going to contest.
This case against the Russian company in St Petersburg (”Concord”) raises troubling issues concerning the crimes Mueller is trying to charge them with, some of which are probably illegitimate.
The charge that certain Russians engaged in identity theft under US law does seem legitimate.
But Concord’s role as alleged by Mueller is merely that Concord provided funding to those engaged in the identity theft. It’s not clear that that is enough to make Concord guilty of identity theft.
Beyond that, Mueller’s charges are problematic. He is charging people with “conspiracy to defraud the United States” in that they “impaired the lawful functions of the FEC, etc.”
This is a kind of totalitarian interpretation of the law that converts failure to file, say, a registration form with a government agency into a criminal conspiracy.
Let’s say you and your wife fail to get a license for your dog in your jurisdiction. Under Mueller’s soviet-like legal interpretation, you have just undertaken a criminal conspiracy to frustrate the lawful functions of the dog-licensing department by failing to license your dog.
I would be surprised if the Supreme Court ultimately were to allow these Orwellian legal theories to stand, even for an unsympathetic defendant like a Russian oligarch close to Putin.
Also, Mueller claims a general conspiracy to “interfere with US political and electoral processes.”
But like it or not, foreign persons do have free speech rights.
If say, the British prime minister while in DC during the election made a statement such as “I want Hillary to win. I encourage all Americans to vote for Hillary” then presumably under Mueller’s legal theory she is interfering with the election.
Or let’s say the British prime minister formed a Facebook group to encourage other foreign leaders to come out for Hillary. Would that really be illegal?
Beyond the allegations of identity theft, Mueller’s criminal charges against the Russians may be quite problematic and if they want to defend these, the litigation could go on for a long time and all the way up to the Supreme Court.
It is no surprise that they have failed to respond to Concord’s discovery requests. They don’t even acknowledge Concord has appeared in the case to contest the charges. Gerstein reports that Judge Friedrich “sided with Concord and said the arraignment will proceed as scheduled Wednesday afternoon.” Gerstein also reports that “Concord intends to assert its speedy trial rights, putting more pressure on the special counsel’s office to turn over records related to the case.”
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Wow....just WOW!! The significance of this cannot be overstated. Mueller and his criminal enterprise associates are, AT LONG LAST, being legally required to PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
The next steps are TIMELY DISCOVERY against Mueller. Mueller’s tactics of saying “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain” are following on deaf ears.
THANK GOD FOR THE SPRINKLING OF HONEST, COURAGEOUS AND CAPABLE JUDGES STILL STANDING.
Now that Mueller looks wounded you can bet that defense lawyers are working like crazy on aggressive briefs all weekend
I think this Russian troll farm indictment is likely a dead end and was just used as a lame attempt to provide legitimacy to the SC investigation. If there was true counterintelligence value the troll farm indictment would never have happened. It would have been redacted out of existence...
Courts do not like it when you drag your feet in your own case. Mueller revealed himself to be unprepared and to be posturing. If he doesn’t proceed the court eventually will dismiss the case. And Mueller is beginning to reveal he thought the justice system is his to play with which it’s not.
It all about keeping the clown show going thur the midterms. They really think this idiocy is helping them with voters.
When those indictments were first announced, I posted here on FR that the Russians could do tremendous damage to the U.S. simply by having one of the defendants show up to contest the charges.
I thought there was no chance in hell that one of the 13 Russians would come to the U.S. to stand trial. It never occurred to me that one of the corporations listed among the defendants could defend itself without having a single Russian anywhere within 100 miles of the courtroom. LOL.
Hahaha.
There is some smoke for cover, of course: that the information behind the indictment was "sensitive", which is entirely irrelevant since it will have to be presented in court anyway, and that the defense attorneys are asking for the moon in discovery, which they always do as a normal matter of course. The political advantages to delay are obvious, especially if they don't think they can get a conviction or are trying to bankrupt the defendants, or both. The risk is that if it gets tossed from court it brings a healthy skeptical focus on every one of the other indictments, with plenty of time for that to sink in before the election. If they were hoping for a Deep State judge to keep the whole charade going that's leaning on a mighty flimsy reed.
Thanks for posting.
I downloaded the Charge document and scanned down the list of groups and it had amazing detail.
But part way through the document I ran across an entry for a Twitter account that I recognized. That was suspended on Twitter for violation of terms of service.
I searched for that screen name and my own screen name and got about 30 hits (threads) in 2016-2017. The comments by @TEN_GOP were missing but looking at my the threads I was listed in, @TEN_GOP was not leading or even a major factor in the discussion. Some of the threads had 20 or more entries, but only 1 entry was by that account. The rest were people I actually knew and had long discussions with.
The @TEN_GOP was an account I vaguely remember, but they were not shaping opinion on Twitter. Based upon that, I saw BS to the charges releated to that Twitter account.
As far as the rest is concerned? There is a lot of detail but nothing else I read could I say I ever heard of.
Just saying, at this point I don’t believe the charges. (I’m not Putin defender)
Mueller can't give them discovery--it gives the Russians too much info. So, he has to drop the charges. But the Russians can argue "You have besmirched our good name. We demand the right to defend ourselves."
Suppose the Judge hems and haws for a while and the Russians tell Mueller "Well, we won't go any further if you give us a statement that the indictment was a mistake and you now believe that there was no collusion."
Now Mueller is really stuck. If he says "no collusion" his entire reason for being disappears. If he says "collusion" they get discovery.