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Charity versus Welfare: We conservatives have abandoned the poor to an evil government.
American Thinker ^ | 05/05/2018 | Hank Wallace

Posted on 05/05/2018 5:38:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

You are driving through downtown, and you see a homeless woman standing on the corner. You think, "I hope she is getting some help." You drive on.

There are two sources for help for that homeless woman: charity and welfare. Let's examine them, how they work, and their effects on her and the rest of us.

First, charity. There are many charitable organizations in every locality, taking voluntary donations from private citizens, churches, and businesses and aiding people in need. But let's look at charity on a more personal level. Let's say you, sitting in your car observing the homeless woman, have the impulse to help directly and personally. You drive to the grocery store and buy a couple of bags of groceries for the woman (and her kids playing on the curb). You drive back to where she sits, get out of the car, and hand her the groceries. She looks at you, surprised, and thanks you graciously. You get back into your car and drive off, feeling as though you did something meaningful today.

Next week, you see the same woman sitting on a bench on the market downtown, looking not much better off than she did the week before. Her kids are playing on the dirty sidewalk with some old toys. You walk by, but then you get an idea. It's a little cold outside, so you stop into a shop and buy coffee and hot chocolate for her and the kids. Again, surprised that you noticed her, she thanks you and asks you to have a seat on the bench beside her. This time, you are also surprised (at the invitation), and you sit down and talk for a while.

You learn the woman's name, where she's from, and some of the details of her situation.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charity; conservatism; welfare

1 posted on 05/05/2018 5:38:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Conservatives give more to charity than liberals. We’r teh ones who help.

It’s liberals who want to keep them on the government’s dime — to empower themselves.


2 posted on 05/05/2018 5:40:42 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a crap example. 85% of the homeless are men, yet to pull on heartstrings they make it a woman. Who has tons of charities and social services specializingin helping her.

The men, not much at all.


3 posted on 05/05/2018 5:46:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does Hank have a story where you help the homeless man and he stabs you with an AIDS infested needle?

No matter how much you give, the government will still take your money.

P.S. Hank is a douchebag.


4 posted on 05/05/2018 5:47:50 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: SeekAndFind
Remember when Michelle Obama was feeding arugula and other exotic foods to the homeless. And I'm thinking to myself, why not just open a big ass can of Campbell's Soup to feed them?

When Michelle did that, that was liberalism personified.

5 posted on 05/05/2018 5:57:02 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Democracy: The cliff's edge of Marxism)
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To: SeekAndFind

It always appeared to me the government assumed that role through the force of law. It’s called socialism and it is always destined to fail.


6 posted on 05/05/2018 6:03:57 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: TBP

Ummm . . . No.

The “poor” have cast their lot with an evil government.


7 posted on 05/05/2018 6:13:55 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Hey, Rocky--Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!)
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To: SeekAndFind

A university, years ago, studied this. Churches give more to the poor than all other charities combined. Problem is, the government is now creating more poor than anyone can handle.


8 posted on 05/05/2018 6:28:56 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: SeekAndFind
Tax payers are charged to fund Rome's human trafficking. All those middle east male refugees Obama and lying Ryan imported are set for life on public assistance.... Then there is Rome's DACA children... Catholic Charities gets a bounty off taxpayers for every head they ‘settle’ in the USA... Other so called ‘religious’ charities get funding as well but not near the magnitude the Catholic Charities receive. Lying Ryan is colluding with Rome to destroy this nation...

What is really ‘rich’ is to hear lying Ryan call ‘government’ programs, such as the VA and social security as being unsustainable. Lying Ryan never fulfilled his oath of office ... he is working for ‘sainthood’ on the backs of US taxpayers...

9 posted on 05/05/2018 6:35:32 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: EEGator

News coverage for Detroit Oct.20,2015 innocent EM.Med.Service workers responded to phony call (homeless use it as ploy to get free rides—common trick) and woman EMS worker was slashed in the face. Artery severed. Nearly died. Will always have disfiguring deep slash scar when she looks in the mirror.

The poor (and not just blacks like this man) think they are “entitled.”
Yeah, we owe them some justice!


10 posted on 05/05/2018 6:41:38 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we're finished.)
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To: SeekAndFind

i interned back when for my senior paper for my university at Skid Row for Union Gospel. I told this story multiple times over the years and I’ll tell it again: the homeless CHOSE this lifestyle.

When you receive a stipend from the govt for FREE DENTAL, FREE MEDICAL, FREE FOOD, why work? I had so many conversations with the “homeys” and they would laugh at which homeless shelter they got.

I even filed the paperwork for the “homeless” when they got free dental work from USC Dentistry students which is comparable to a Beverly Hills dentist and yes, I got my dental done free as part of my internship. Even the medical doctors from UCLA who were interning, were top notch. Nowadays, I get a bill from the hospital and sometimes imagined I was a homeless dude at Skid Row.

Again, why work when you have all of this free stuff at your disposal?


11 posted on 05/05/2018 6:51:45 PM PDT by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe is we weren’t held at gun point and threatened with wage withholding, savings confiscation, property confiscation and incarceration if they don’t pay high taxes with a weak dollar then there might be more charity contribution.


12 posted on 05/05/2018 6:53:08 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvete)
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To: Arm_Bears

The “poor” have cast their lot with an evil government.

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That’s a very broad statement. How do you know they have all “cast their lot” with the government?


13 posted on 05/05/2018 6:58:44 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The best way to help the poor, is to not become one of them.” - Reverend Ike

Everywhere is freak and hairs
Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity
Tax the rich, feed the poor
‘Ti there are no rich no more?

Alvin Lee - Ten Years After

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBAwv49slC8


14 posted on 05/05/2018 7:37:57 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: SeekAndFind
Bull! When the government went overboard in forced "charity" to the lazy and useless, we eventually decided that we couldn't keep up as much giving as in the past because rising taxes cut into resources...I still help people 'on the street" but I also am more careful about it as many are scammers who have patent hard luck stories because panhandling is easier and less intrusive on their "lifestyles" than having a job.

Today, when someone tells me how hungry they are and cold i spare a few bucks for something to eat, I offer to buy them a sandwich - their reaction tells me a lot.

15 posted on 05/06/2018 4:09:09 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: SeekAndFind

If the government would end the welfare state and dramatically lower our taxes, then we would have more disposable income for additional charity, and would target it much more carefully for the truly needy, instead of spreading it around fraudulently as vote payments and candy to addict Democrat voter blocks.

It is hard to be as charitable as desired when Federal, state, local, sales and property taxes extort 50% of your income.


16 posted on 05/06/2018 6:12:25 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe the author is really looking in the mirror when he says “we”. While I would agree that we can never do enough for charity and can always do more, I think survey’s have found that Conservatives of a religious mind give more per capita to charity that others, regardless of their own income.

However:

If I were to join the author in one single area it would in the area of adoption, whether it be a child already “in the system” or helping a young unmarried mother not go the abortion route. Half of society’s ills, I believe, are coming out of broken families and fatherless kids. Every child adopted into a loving a family is a child saved from untold perils of growing up an orphan shuffled between foster homes, or a child saved from abortion. Yes, I think Conservatives, with our right to life principles, can do a lot more in that area. Maybe even helping to avoid the circumstances of the kind of woman the author is talking about.


17 posted on 05/06/2018 6:53:29 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

Almost as a rule, the homeless usually suffer from significant mental, behavioral, substance abuse, and health issues that impair their capacity to accept and use help or to live in an ordinary way. In addition, most want cash, not a bag of groceries. After all, just how can someone living rough store and use groceries to prepare meals? A bag of groceries and friendship with a homeless person is more in the nature of a Christian gesture than practical help. And, contrary to the belief of the author, most help for the homeless is delivered not by government employees but by charities and nonprofit organizations that rely on government grants.


18 posted on 05/06/2018 7:13:51 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Arm_Bears

Some have. But we’re the ones who are actually interested in helping them, not the left.


19 posted on 05/06/2018 2:26:57 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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