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Trump considering pardon for boxing legend Jack Johnson after call from Sylvester Stallone
The Hill ^ | 04/21/18 03:33 PM EDT | BY BRETT SAMUELS -

Posted on 04/21/2018 2:11:32 PM PDT by ethom

Edited on 04/21/2018 3:34:58 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

President Trump said Saturday he

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: boxing; jackjohnson; stallone
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1 posted on 04/21/2018 2:11:32 PM PDT by ethom
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To: ethom

If he was,in fact,guilty I see no reason for a pardon.He served a year...he wasn’t executed.And his race makes no difference his guilt or innocence is all that matters.


2 posted on 04/21/2018 2:15:43 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: ethom

Wow, talk about putting black leaders in a bind. Sure they want a presidential pardon for the boxer, but not from this ‘illegitimate’ president.

And by the way, where was Obama regarding this...it’s not like the conviction happened last month, or last year.


3 posted on 04/21/2018 2:16:04 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: ethom

If he’s already tweeted about it, hasn’t he pretty much boxed himself in?


4 posted on 04/21/2018 2:18:57 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: ethom

Does this mean he’ll be able to vote?


5 posted on 04/21/2018 2:19:13 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: BobL

guess Obama was not a boxing fan lol


6 posted on 04/21/2018 2:19:15 PM PDT by ethom
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To: GnuThere

“boxed himself in?”

I see what you did there.


7 posted on 04/21/2018 2:20:04 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: ethom

A posthumous pardon is like a posthumous conviction the person concerned does not care.


8 posted on 04/21/2018 2:20:48 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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9 posted on 04/21/2018 2:21:56 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: ethom

Johnson did indeed get railroaded.


10 posted on 04/21/2018 2:22:26 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Gay State Conservative

Given the circumstances and the time it might be fine to do so. Liberals from way back have had ample opportunity to do this and did not. It will stick in their craw and that of the Hypocritical Black leaders if Trump does it. Worth the price of admission to watch the reactions.


11 posted on 04/21/2018 2:22:32 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Gay State Conservative

He was guilty of dating a white woman. Don’t you think we’ve moved past that?


12 posted on 04/21/2018 2:22:43 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: Gay State Conservative
He was "guilty" ( transporting a woman to another state for the purpose of having carnal knowledge of her ) but I don't know how many white men got tried and sentenced for the same thing. If there WERE some, then the fact that Johnson was black and the women were white, doesn't matter. If there were NO whites who were tried and jailed, for the same crime, then perhaps he should be pardoned.

The Broadway play and subsequent movie "THE GREAT WHITE HOPE", tells the story of Jack Johnson and the movie is both very interesting and very well done. James Earl Jones and Jane Alexander starred in both the play and the movie.

13 posted on 04/21/2018 2:23:13 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Gay State Conservative

He was convicted for actions taken before the statute existed. He got shafted because of his color.


14 posted on 04/21/2018 2:24:42 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Gay State Conservative

It would be naïve to believe that in 1912 a black man in Johnson’s situation would have been treated fairly by the courts .

I would support a presidential pardon.


15 posted on 04/21/2018 2:25:15 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Maxine Waters for House Minority Leader!!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

He was convicted of a crime that didn’t even exist at the time of the event. He did nothing wrong. Google around. There’s plenty of information.


16 posted on 04/21/2018 2:29:33 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: nopardons

The “Great White Hope” wasn’t EXACTLY about Johnson. The boxer in the movie was Jack Jefferson But it was pretty close for Hollywood.


17 posted on 04/21/2018 2:34:22 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: ethom

What??
Jack Johnson was a famous athlete, but wasn’t he also a well known communist sympathizer? I’m still googling to confirm one way or another.

If Johnson committed a crime, we cannot just wish it away, and absolve him of guilt posthumously.
We need to get over this current urge to retool the past and make it fit the dialogs of today.

Most black groups will either ignore this gesture, or find something to criticize, saying this paternalistic pandering makes the president’s ‘racism’ that much more obvious!


18 posted on 04/21/2018 2:35:12 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Gay State Conservative

It was a horseshit law...just like prohibtion was.


19 posted on 04/21/2018 2:37:23 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: fhayek
The play and the movie WERE about Johnson; they just changed the name. And Hollywood had nothing at all to do with the name change, since the movie was based on the Broadway play.

I don't know why the name change, but everyone with more than 3 working brain cells knew that both were based on Johnson's life. IIRC, it was mentioned in the Playbill and in ALL of the published reviews of the movie, when it came out.

20 posted on 04/21/2018 2:40:37 PM PDT by nopardons
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