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1 posted on 04/21/2018 2:11:32 PM PDT by ethom
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If he was,in fact,guilty I see no reason for a pardon.He served a year...he wasn’t executed.And his race makes no difference his guilt or innocence is all that matters.


2 posted on 04/21/2018 2:15:43 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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Wow, talk about putting black leaders in a bind. Sure they want a presidential pardon for the boxer, but not from this ‘illegitimate’ president.

And by the way, where was Obama regarding this...it’s not like the conviction happened last month, or last year.


3 posted on 04/21/2018 2:16:04 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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If he’s already tweeted about it, hasn’t he pretty much boxed himself in?


4 posted on 04/21/2018 2:18:57 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: ethom

Does this mean he’ll be able to vote?


5 posted on 04/21/2018 2:19:13 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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A posthumous pardon is like a posthumous conviction the person concerned does not care.


8 posted on 04/21/2018 2:20:48 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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Johnson did indeed get railroaded.


10 posted on 04/21/2018 2:22:26 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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What??
Jack Johnson was a famous athlete, but wasn’t he also a well known communist sympathizer? I’m still googling to confirm one way or another.

If Johnson committed a crime, we cannot just wish it away, and absolve him of guilt posthumously.
We need to get over this current urge to retool the past and make it fit the dialogs of today.

Most black groups will either ignore this gesture, or find something to criticize, saying this paternalistic pandering makes the president’s ‘racism’ that much more obvious!


18 posted on 04/21/2018 2:35:12 PM PDT by lee martell
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Jamie Brockett and Ledbelly fans will remember that Jack Johnson avoided a possible early death because of racism...

“Jack Johnson want to get on board,
Captain says, “I ain’t haulin’ no coal.”
Fare thee, Titanic, fare thee well.”

After the sinking, Johnson realizes the irony of the situation. The Captain’s racism saved the boxer’s life:

“When he heard about that mighty shock,
Might o’ seen the man doin’ the Eagle Rock.
Fare thee, Titanic, fare thee well.”


38 posted on 04/21/2018 3:01:59 PM PDT by bigbob
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This plus the Haiti Q news drop will be enough to lock up 2018 midterms.


45 posted on 04/21/2018 3:18:48 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (There are no more accidents. Q Sorta Kinda Knows What He is Talking About)
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How about considering a pardon for soldiers in prison at Leavenworth on bogus charges from Iraq and Afghanistan. If you want to make a difference, do it there Mr President!


53 posted on 04/21/2018 3:34:24 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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No pardons for whore-mongers, the Mann Act was the law.


85 posted on 04/21/2018 5:53:42 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didnÂ’t.")
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If Trump wishes to pardon an athlete that was convicted of the Mann Act that was brought into reality in 1910 and the conviction was in 1913, using situations that were accomplished prior to 1910, then I can understand the action as they applied a law to incidents that were, to the best of our knowledge, outside the scope of the law.

But do not pardon him because he was black. Pardon him because he was a person. Using race as a political tool for the purposes of pandering for votes is reprehensible and should not be considered. That is an ugly action that mistreats people based upon grouping thus making it segregation no matter what the race, color, creed, religion or any other category that separates us as Americans.

When the soldier enters the fight, does he care what color, race, gender, religion he is fighting for? If it does, he/she shouldn’t be there. A politician is no different. He/she represents not a group, but a city, county, state, or country. f the group is being mistreated, that’s all our problems. And if a group is being misused for a vote, that’s also all our problems.

And if he does pardon him, he needs to make sure it is being done because he was not tried correctly. Not because he is black.

rwood


90 posted on 04/21/2018 6:11:55 PM PDT by Redwood71
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memories...back from listening to KAAY AM Little Rock blowtorch...

Listen to this: https://youtu.be/4XFYMjkFYPg


129 posted on 04/22/2018 10:33:20 PM PDT by apostoli ("When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination." - Sowel)
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