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1 posted on 04/14/2018 12:31:06 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
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Feds gotta refile.
All of us ( do not have to be Christian )will claim this.


2 posted on 04/14/2018 12:34:12 PM PDT by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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I spent the day itemizing taxable transactions. More than once, I thought about just filing without going through all of the trouble.

It’s just going to get spent in all sorts of crap ways.

Does it really matter if they get it all? They are getting enough.


3 posted on 04/14/2018 12:35:52 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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I see big things ahead for the church of IGETTOKEEPMYOWNMONEY


4 posted on 04/14/2018 12:36:46 PM PDT by Iron Munro (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize. -- Voltaire.)
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Ummm, what church IS that?

Asking for a friend...


5 posted on 04/14/2018 12:37:33 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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Country laws override religious observances. Unfortunately, this has already been breached. The country has implemented Muslim banking: Sharia-compliant banking which follows the rules of Sharia.
No chance at all of that being rolled back. None. The country has already established one religion, over all the others. Illegal and unconstitutional.


8 posted on 04/14/2018 12:43:53 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left. PS. f*ck the media.)
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What a nightmare this could be.

This man doesn’t want to pay his taxes because his tax money supports abortion.

Someone else will say they won’t pay because they oppose the money going to the military.

Ditto, someone who opposes foreign aid to certain countries.

Ditto, someone who opposes federal aid to education, or food stamps SNAP benefits to illegals, or Section 8 housing, whether people are legal or illegal, or any government program. (fill in the blank)

Heck, if this were allowed, everyone would say they oppose this or that specific government spending, just to trim their tax bill.


10 posted on 04/14/2018 12:46:40 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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If this gets past the 9th circus I’ll be amazed.


11 posted on 04/14/2018 12:50:20 PM PDT by Don Corleone ( lose the gun. save the cannolis.)
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we the people are crying out for serious tax reform, flat 10 percent for starters, eliminate the IRS.


18 posted on 04/14/2018 1:55:48 PM PDT by exnavy (America: love it or leave it.)
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I’m claiming Christian, PLUS 20 million dependents!


19 posted on 04/14/2018 2:16:06 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! Oathkeeper)
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Thank you for referencing that article ameribbean expat. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"Bowman said he's been up front with the Internal Revenue Service, refusing to file a return or pay taxes since 1999 without some accommodation afforded to him for religious beliefs."

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

While I appreciate Mr. Bowman's argument, please consider the following.

If the states were teaching school children about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers as they should be doing, including the fed's limited power to appropriate taxes, then Mr. Bowman, and probably most other taxpayers, would probably be able to argue the following points against federal taxes.

Mr. Bowman could not only argue federal funding for abortion is unconstitutional, but that most other federal spending programs are unconstitutional as well imo.

In fact, military issues aside, citizens can argue that if a given federal spending program is not reasonably related to the US Mail Service (1.8.7) then the program is unconstitutional, and probably be right most of the time.

So why are citizens now paying unconstitutional federal taxes?

Based on the excerpt above from Gibbons v. Ogden, note that one of the reasons that the Founding States established the federal Senate was so that the Senate could kill unconstitutional House appropriations bills (1.7.1), bills that not only steal state powers, but also steal state revenues uniquely associated with those powers.

In fact, the Founding States had originally given the power to vote for federal senators uniquely to state lawmakers (1.3.1), not ordinary voters. This is because the founders had expected senators to protect their respective states from the feds partly by killing unconstitutional House appropriations bills, bills that steal state revenues and ultimately citizens' wallets.

So how did citizens allow the unconstitutionally big federal government to drown them in unconstitutional taxes, citizens now basically paying unconstitutional taxes to the feds on a silver platter, particularly since the time of the FDR Administration?

Consider that the anti-constitutional republic Progressive Movement successfully spooked low-information citizens, citizens who were evidently clueless about the fed's constitutionally limited powers, into pressuring state lawmakers to ratify the ill-conceived 17th Amendment (17A). And state lawmakers foolishly caved in and ratified 17A, foolishly giving up their voices in Congress by doing so.

What's been going on more and more since 17A was ratified is this. Lawmakers in both Houses long ago discovered that they could exploit low-information voters in the following way. Career lawmakers win their votes by promising citizens every kind of federal spending program under the sun.

The problem is such voters are probably clueless that, military issues aside, most spending programs of the constitutionally limited power federal government are unconstitutional according the Gibbon v. Ogden excerpt above.

In other words, constitutional lawmakers had expected citizens in each state to work with their state lawmakers, not the feds, to establish the social spending programs that they wanted.

"... the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)


The remedy for the unconstitutionally big federal government that misguided voters have created …

It is entirely up to us patriots to finish the job that we started when we elected Trump president.

More specifically, patriots now need to be making sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting, state sovereignty-respecting patriot candidates on the 2018 primary ballots. Such candidates need to commit to supporting Pres. Trump to lead the states to repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

Patriots then need to pink-slip career lawmakers by sending patriot candidate lawmakers to DC on election day.

Consider that we also need to move tax day from April 15 to the last working day before election day.

And until the states wake up and repeal 17A, as evidenced by concerns about the integrity of the outcome of Alabama's and Pennsylvania's special elections, patriot candidates need to win elections by a large enough margin to compensate for possible deep state ballot box fraud and associated MSM scare tactics.

Hacking Democracy - The Hack

26 posted on 04/14/2018 4:17:36 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: ameribbean expat

You don’t actually have to file as long as you withhold more than you owe.

You do have to file to get a refund.


27 posted on 04/14/2018 4:22:15 PM PDT by fruser1
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