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There Are Some Problems With Gas Cylinders Videos Used By White Helmets As Evidence Of Douma Attack
Southfront ^ | 4/11/2018 | Southfront

Posted on 04/12/2018 6:28:10 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables

While horrible photos (link 18+) of people allegedly killed in the April 7 Douma attack rapidly became widely known after they had been released by the White Helments, there was something ignored by the media.

Besides the photos of the dead bodies, Douma “media activists” also released videos showing two compressed gas cylinders, which had allegedly been used by “the Assad regime” to conduct the chemical attack on Douma.

These videos raise some questions....

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So, the questions:

Why the cylinder#1 is undamaged if it has been dropped by a helicopter? Why the cylinder#1 is closed? Why the bed under the cylinder#1 is undamaged? Why did the second video showing the cylinder#2 [which is damaged and even a bit burned] appear only on April 10, a day after the visit of the Russians to the area?

A person skeptical of “Assad chemical attack” reports by the White Helmets may say that the cylinder#1 videos were staged to confirm that the attack had beeen conducted by the Syrian Air Force. However, too much mistakes (like a lack of damage) were made. So, the organization had to make another “propper” video with the cylinder#2 to confirm its claims.

Everyone is free to decide for himself.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chemicalweapons; falseflag; gasattack; mickeymouse; russianpropaganda; syria; syriawar
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To: WayneS

“”they reported chlorine gas.””

And that’s exactly what the cylinder looks like except with fins added to stabilize during free fall. Very similar to the barrel bomb modifications. The fact that it didn’t release gas isn’t surprising since there’s no detonating device, just the brass neck and valve. It’s kind of a drop and hope weapon, drop and hope it snaps the neck off like the other one apparently did. No damage to the bed? Looks like it took a pretty good hit considering the cylinder it self doesn’t weigh much and the roof slowed it down considerably. It’s not like it’s a bunker buster. The whole design looks like it was built to be dropped from a helicopter just like the barrel bombs.


21 posted on 04/12/2018 7:00:05 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Likely it was just what it appears, a gas attack by the Syrian government. However, recall that Arabs will move corpses to invent atrocities to horrify the West, like the Intifada.
Proceed with discretion. Don’t start World War over this, to satisfy Juan McLame and Lizzie Graham.


22 posted on 04/12/2018 7:05:16 AM PDT by steve8714 ("My name is Rod Blagojevich and I need cash now!" (all) "Call JB Pritzker, 87DirtyCashNOW!")
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Which “horrible photos”? I saw a house with every person sporting what looked like Vaseline under their noses...Which was supposed to be a fatal sign on nerve gas. But what if it was just Vaseline? There are billions at stake if Trump pulls out. And we have seen proven fake nerve gas death videos from Syria before. I could have a convincing fx video like this produced for under $100k. Interests with fortunes at stake might be willing to pay much more


23 posted on 04/12/2018 7:06:05 AM PDT by montag813
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To: butlerweave

Fake video >>> Benghazi/Fake video >>> WWIII.


24 posted on 04/12/2018 7:14:41 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Never seen that website before. What is their track record for being truthful?


25 posted on 04/12/2018 7:15:36 AM PDT by dragonblustar (I love reading Trump tweets in the morning.)
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To: FatherofFive

>> This sounds like BS <<

No, just routine info from FSB/KGB troll HQ in St. Petersburg.


26 posted on 04/12/2018 7:30:45 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables
Why would suicidal Jihadists that blow themselves up and murder innocents with bombs attack themselves and innocents with chemical weapons?

/s

27 posted on 04/12/2018 7:35:56 AM PDT by DBeers (The concept of peace in Islam requires not co-existence but submission.)
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To: dragonblustar

I do not know. Just stumbled upon it myself.

Their links are good, however. Photos did come from vids released by white helmets, and time and dates seem legit.


28 posted on 04/12/2018 7:38:41 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Trump has implemented Supply Side Economics!!!)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables
All the images are consistent with a 10 kilogram gas cylinder crashing through the roof and coming to rest on the bed.

Troops in WWI improvised chemical mortars by firing gas cylinders from buried tubes. The valves on the cylinders we fitted with caps intended to break off on impact or as the cylinder tumbled across the ground.

You cannot tell if the valve is open or closed in the posted image. There is a stub of sorts affixed to the valve.

29 posted on 04/12/2018 7:39:19 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Isn’t Southern Front a Syrian rebel org??


30 posted on 04/12/2018 7:40:52 AM PDT by CodeToad (The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republiverycans took their slaves away.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

pretty well much the consensus of critical thinkers.

1. It’s a calculated move by the Russians to engage the U.S
2. False Flag operation that doesn’t want U.S withdrawal from Syria.
3. An in your face by Russian/Syria big F/U


31 posted on 04/12/2018 7:50:05 AM PDT by Fhios (Mr. Magoo, where are you?)
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To: Paine in the Neck

WTF dude. If they had a chemical weapons munitions carried on an aircraft then it’s very unlikely it dropped by accident. Is your post meant to be sarcasm?


32 posted on 04/12/2018 7:53:02 AM PDT by Fhios (Mr. Magoo, where are you?)
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To: Hawthorn

“No, just routine info from FSB/KGB troll HQ in St. Petersburg.”

Yep, if we want to spot the Russian troll farm at work, look at this thread.

This is classic Russian agitprop.


33 posted on 04/12/2018 8:04:12 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Chlorine is the oldest and simplest of the war gasses. One of the first times it was proposed to be used militarily was in our civil war by a patriotic Union scientist. The idea was to fire canisters of it at hard to take Confederate forts, like Fort Sumter. It wasn’t done, but the technology even existed back in 1861-1865.

The Germans were the first to use it in war, in WWI, and it was the the first war gas used. They fired their projectiles from conventional artillery and specially made tubes. The “rebels” have the technology to make the stuff and artillery for a delivery system. Thus, there’s little or no way to learn who actually fired the chlorine in question.

Would the MB, ISIS, or the Democrats kill their own people in a spectacular way to win propaganda points? Would Tawana Brawley smear herself in dog feces to make a propaganda point? Do bears poop in the woods?


34 posted on 04/12/2018 8:07:09 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables
Over the last couple of days, I have seen comments on the proposed strike on Syria from commentators, politicians and members of the public on social media of all political stripes and many nationalities. The opposition to the strike seems to be 100.00%. Is Trump playing 4-dimensional chess, does he know something no one else does, or is this going to be his second yuge screw-up (appointing Sessions being the first)?
35 posted on 04/12/2018 8:15:37 AM PDT by snarkpup (Fake news is one-half of the problem. Fake education is the other half.)
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To: butlerweave

I posted something similar in a post yesterday. did you happen to notice the brand spanking new hose he was using? I mean it’s still locking in its coil! Shiny and all! my kids do better videos on their phones...I call total BS on this and we should not be bombing a damn thing until we are 100% sure.


36 posted on 04/12/2018 8:16:40 AM PDT by BOARn
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To: Jewbacca

>> if we want to spot the Russian troll farm at work, look at this thread <<

Sadly, they and their “useful idiots” seem to be major players on FR these days.


37 posted on 04/12/2018 8:18:13 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

This website appears to be slanted heavily toward Russian interests, although they don’t give much information who is actually behind it. I would hardly say it’s reliable.


38 posted on 04/12/2018 8:20:43 AM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: snarkpup

>> is this going to be his second yuge screw-up <<

I guess we’ll need to wait until Dr. Corsi and Q-Anon check in to tell us what we’re supposed to think.


39 posted on 04/12/2018 8:21:34 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Ikemeister

what in the world are you talking about??? slanted toward Russian interests??? what is the proof of that?


40 posted on 04/12/2018 8:21:52 AM PDT by BOARn
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