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Oregon Initiative Seeks To Ban Semiautomatic Rifles, Mandate Current Owners To Turn Them Over
townhall.com ^ | 3/22/2018 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 03/23/2018 8:28:01 AM PDT by rktman

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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

There was no intent to blow up children inOKC.

L&C wasn’t about “battling the Brits”. It was a guerilla force mobilized to attack the lawful army of the King, a sovereign that all involved were required to obey. Then, when driving them off was not enough, that guerilla force pursued and fought and killed the legal army through the use of unacceptable practices that were abhorrent to the legal authorities and methods of making war. The colonists understood this. They knew that they were traitors and terrorists (although the word had not been coined yet). In the FR CW2 fantasy, we will have to be the traitors and terrorists as well. If we win, then we get to write the history books that portray us as gallant defenders of liberty.

That’s how it works. Blowing up a federal building is the same thing as shooting up the Redcoats at L&C. The difference is in who won.


61 posted on 03/23/2018 10:40:29 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: shotgun

“PLING”. As unmistakable sound. A Zippo lighter makes an unmistakable sound also.


62 posted on 03/23/2018 10:41:30 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Old Yeller

LOL! I think that just changed and caused all sorts of confusion when folks who knew noting else were required to do it themselves. Any OR FReepers to verify?


63 posted on 03/23/2018 10:43:38 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

He had a few of those as well. Leaves a hell of burn scar on your arm when you light it and let the lid get too hot when your 8 years old...


64 posted on 03/23/2018 10:47:38 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: American in Israel
” It helps that the 144% voters vs the 100% registered to vote all reside in the coastal cities.”

Is that true?

65 posted on 03/23/2018 10:48:11 AM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: Bryanw92

When you blow up a building that has a day care center in it you’re not conducting a revolution you’re committing homicide on innocents.

Lexington and Concord was the populace keeping the British from seizing the militia’s arms at the armory.


66 posted on 03/23/2018 10:55:35 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (We need a consent decree for the FBI like Obama was slapping on all those police agencies.)
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To: Manly Warrior
Jesus said that “you are mine if you obey my words”, He also said “ take your cloak and sell it and buy a sword”.

Peter responded to the latter and said “we have two”, the Lord curtly stated “that is enough!”.

The Greek word for "enough" indicates that the quantity present was sufficient for the task at hand. This particular translation doesn't convey that meaning. It sounds more like Jesus was annoyed.

67 posted on 03/23/2018 10:56:21 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

>>When you blow up a building that has a day care center in it you’re not conducting a revolution you’re committing homicide on innocents.

>>Lexington and Concord was the populace keeping the British from seizing the militia’s arms at the armory.

McVeigh did not know about the day care center and the colonists WERE British. But that’s not the point.

You seem to understand my original statement even if you can’t admit it. You lack the moral certainty to engage in a civil uprising. Most of us do. It is our great weakness and is why the Progressives will eventually win. Other evidence is the “boating accident” joke and the threats of burying weapons. They know that our tendency to believe in the power of law, and therefore the right of government to govern, will give them the victory in the end.


68 posted on 03/23/2018 11:13:46 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: MPJackal

While living in WA that fact was divine home on numerous occasions. I did some quick math based on the demographics of eastern WA and determined that if voter turnout could be improved by just 10% without any corresponding increase from the west part of the state(population centers) then the East could negate the wests control of the state. voter turnout has always and will always be key to winning elections. Some people just can’t be motivated to participate.


69 posted on 03/23/2018 11:36:50 AM PDT by dirtymac
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To: rktman

dear all criminals - Oregon is now a gun-free zone. Please vacate Idaho and conduct your business in Oregon in the future.


70 posted on 03/23/2018 11:46:13 AM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Bob434
true- but the problem is that now everyone with the ‘banned guns’ are now felons if caught

And that is a problem if you get a jury that doesn't include 1 person in favor of gun rights.

71 posted on 03/23/2018 11:56:18 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: j_guru

I don’t understand why everyone keeps saying that SCOTUS will not uphold this if passed, if that were true then the NYSsafe Act would have been struck down.


72 posted on 03/23/2018 1:32:28 PM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Lazamataz
a lot of the authors and sponsors would join me.

I'm sure they are some badass operators.

73 posted on 03/24/2018 1:18:00 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Dude, is it imperative that you shit on absolutely EVERYone?


74 posted on 03/24/2018 1:41:40 PM PDT by Lazamataz (What America needs is more Hogg control.)
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To: Lazamataz

Pretty much.
I’m sure as hell not going to kiss anybody’s ass.

They want to represent like they’re better than me then they can nut up and prove it.


75 posted on 03/24/2018 1:43:58 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

You got issues. Wish ya well.


76 posted on 03/24/2018 1:46:02 PM PDT by Lazamataz (What America needs is more Hogg control.)
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To: Lazamataz

I got pride, call it issues if you like.

I don’t bow to every wanker that claims to be better than me.


77 posted on 03/24/2018 1:55:12 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: bgill

We have to say it multiple times, even on the same thread, but people in the non-coastal parts of WA, OR, and even CA share attitudes of your dear Texas more so than they do of the coasts.


78 posted on 03/24/2018 1:57:44 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Lazamataz

Nah, it’ll never happen...

No one’s going to murder a bunch of preachers and kids over this.

Ed


79 posted on 03/24/2018 10:28:02 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: pgkdan

Deacon Episcopal Church, Augustana Lutheran Church, United Methodist church and Oregon Cease Fire are the sponsors.


80 posted on 03/24/2018 10:31:55 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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