Posted on 03/19/2018 7:02:14 AM PDT by Enlightened1
Yep. You definitely don’t “get” much at all.
So says Mr. Academic, with total lack of comprehension of the overall significance of this disaster.
Britain has never been ruled by the people. They are subjects. They are unarmed. They are done.
LOL
Yep stick a fork in it. It’s done
So there is no Britain. Borders define a country. No borders no country. May is like all the rest - happy to bring muzzies in so they will vote for her and keep her in power.
“and keep the nation’s borders open for the duration of the transition period to 2022”
Some pubs just don’t like illiterates. You shouldn’t take it personally.
Yes, but the question in 1975 was - exact words -
Do you think that the United Kingdom should stay in the European Community (the Common Market)?
It was the Common Market at that time and really only dealt with trade.
And what will they fight with - shovels and pitchforks? They willingly turned over their guns to the left wing globalists who are now enabling the Islamic invasion of their country.
There is no open border to the UK. That’s why there are the notorious ‘jungle camps’ at Calais - would-be migrants to the UK who have made it through the border-free countries of Europe only to be stopped at the UK border.
The UK has never been part of Schengen. Take two passengers arriving at Heathrow on a plane from Paris. One is a French passport holder, the other a Pakistani passport holder. The French passport holder will pass through the border control without question, as he’s a EU citizen. The Pakistani passport holder will not, unless he satisfies the UK government’s border officials that he has the right to do so. The fact that he’s arrived from a EU country is irrelevant.
Thus third world immigration from the Middle East and elsewhere is entirely a British Government responsibility, not a EU responsibility.
It most certainly does have a constitution. And in that constitution Parliament (not the Government) is sovereign. Or, as it’s usually expressed, ‘Nothing may be done which Parliament cannot undo’. The Brexit Referendum was only binding because Parliament (not ‘the Government’) chose to make it so. The British Constitution is one of representative democracy, not direct democracy. Which is why referendums, a device of direct democracy, rarely happen and are usually messy.
This interim agreement over the transition period cannot be finally ratified unless and until Parliament approves it, and that won’t happen until the full Brexit settlement (large parts of which still have to be negotiated) is put to it. ‘Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed’.
Nothing that happened last week alters the British commitment to leave the EU at the end of March 2019. If the two or three years after that look much like the status quo, that will soon seem incidental to the ultimate outcome, and may well come to seem no more than a prudent recognition of the complexities of disengagement from this relationship, which are far greater than many people appreciated at the time of the Referendum. British businesses, in particular, have been desperate to secure a carefully staged withdrawal of this kind.
You have no comprehension of the fact that Britain is already going under, and that a delay in getting the hell out of the EU will allow still further muslim hordes to completely take over Britain.
The Nigel Farage Show: Is this the Brexit we voted for? LBC-19th March 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn2pxWicoYc&t=548s
(Nigel Farage at 2:41)
.....The Prime Minister has agreed that Northern Ireland will have full regulatory alignment as a backstop so if they can’t reach an agreement on the Irish border and how they gonna monitor it or police it we will have full regulatory alignment which means effectively Northern Ireland would stay part of the single market-customs union.
Something Theresa May told the House of Commons no British Prime Minister could ever accept, but in principle we’ve accepted that’s there as the backstop.
And anybody that arrives at the end of Article 50 right through till the end of 2020 of the European Union will have the same rights as those who came before Brexit.
What it means is that free movement is going to continue.
And here’s the one that’s really got me going.
We will not be taking back our territorial fishing waters or the control or management of them.
Oh but we will be allowed to consult. That’s nice isn’t it. We’ll be able to consult about what goes on inside our own territorial waters.
And frankly I feel we’ve given away just way, way too much.
This is not what we voted for. We did not vote for a transition deal and we certainly did vote to take back control of our territorial waters.
But there is of course another possible side to this which is this.
A Prime Minister terrified of big businesses abusing her in public, a Prime Minister really worried about the ultimate numbers in Parliament and if we can concede everything on transition and even when it comes to the trade deal we can see the huge amount....
This is not what we voted for. We did not vote for a transition deal and we certainly did vote to take back control of our territorial waters.
It’s far too early to make those judgements. The only thing that was decided by a majority cote in the referendum, and the only question that was on the ballot, was that Britian should leave the EU. Not how, not when, not leave the single market or the customs union (which preceded the EU). All those things were matters for negotiation. Nothing that was provisionally decided (not ratified) last week alters the British commitment to leave the EU at the end of the 2-year notice period required by Article 50 - ie March 2019. May committed to that timetable only weeks after her appointment, and nothing so far has reneged on that commitment. Nothing in this transitional deal implies permanency (and in retrospect the fact that it didn’t happen all at once will soon be forgotten). Even Brexit ultras like Rees-Mogg are reluctantly accepting that this was probably necessary if further progress were to be made.
None of which, of course, means that anything is certain. But writing off the whole thing as a sell-out is premature, and from the pro-Brexit point of view defeatist.
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