Posted on 03/13/2018 9:25:23 AM PDT by NobleFree
A very bad idea. Making government more powerful has never solved a problem.
A very bad idea. Making government more powerful has never solved a problem.
Sounds like Child Prot. Svcs. are going to have a field day with this as well.
No, not enough safeguards (eg FISA) to keep a government from going rogue and taking any gun they want based on “their” opinion of people. Nope. Dead ender.
“Your Honor, the suspect posts on Freerepublic.”
‘that’s it, he’s insane, sieze the guns!’
The USSC has ruled that individuals have protected rights under 2A.
Of course, and the states will have to structure their "Extreme Risk Protection Orders" laws accordingly, or risk having them overturned. Also, individuals can choose whether they wand to remain in a state that passed really repugnant ones, the old voting with your feet. Federal laws remove that basic individual choice. Putting it on the states is a win-win.
And the LEOs can do what they wish when they wish with no regard for the innocence of the person.
As if LEOs are licensed psychologists and medical doctors.
What could possibly go wrong?
What happened to the 72 hour emergency protection orders that permitted people (not guns) to be taken into custody for the purpose of evaluation and competency hearings? Inanimate items are not the issue here despite the pressing whine of the Obozo holdovers.
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Some states will be happy to violate 2A for as long as they can while the matter drags through the levels of the federal judicial system.
Federal laws remove that basic individual choice. Putting it on the states is a win-win.
No, it's a lose-less.
You forgot to address this comment:"...individuals can choose whether they want to remain in a state that passed really repugnant ones, the old voting with your feet."
“What constitutes a “demonstrated threat to themselves or others”?”
A recent example of a kid shooting up a school in Florida comes to mind, where he was reported to various authorities (including by himself) as an immediate & serious threat ... and nothing was done.
Methinks ERPOs are just a clarification of existing law: if a reasonable person reports to a reasonable cop who asks a reasonable judge who concludes it’s reasonable to disarm someone as an unreasonable threat to others AND who will be subsequently hauled into court to face relevant charges or institutionalization (thus having a chance to, in a timely fashion, refute the accusations and reclaim armaments) - that’s already the norm, just needing clarification so such BS as the Broward County “no arrest” agreement doesn’t impede halting a real threat to the community.
“What happened to the 72 hour emergency protection orders that permitted people (not guns) to be taken into custody for the purpose of evaluation and competency hearings?”
This is the proper pushback.
If someone is that much of a threat, taking guns isn’t the solution - the person may have more, or acquire other means of causing grave harm.
Every single day that goes by that I don’t hear about a new Carl Drega taking things into his own hands, I’m both amazed, and saddened.
Hopefuuly POTUS.45 floats these things for the responses alone; he knows it won’t fly anyway, but he gets to shape and model it for the public’s reaction that He wants!
If so, he can always claim he “tried”.
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They don’t think of him as Tricky Donald fer nuthin;!
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Two choices.
1) Get the crazies off the street and remove them from the schools to prevent other mass shootings or lessens their number of frequencies. Every prevented mass shooting event is one less chance for the Dems and their press to politize.
2) Or take chances that another school mass shooting does not happen, but if it does, the Left mobilizes under Soros and the Dems against the 2nd Amendment in their further attempt to erode the Constitution.
Both have drawbacks.
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