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WH Unveils Proposals To 'Harden' Schools In Wake Of Fla. Shooting
The Hill ^ | 03/11/17 | Brett Samuels

Posted on 03/12/2018 3:28:36 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: BuffaloJack

I suggested home schooling at the liberal echo chamber that is where I work. The response was what will working mothers do? Who’s going to babysit their kids during the day? Which is really I think what the problem is. To really fix this problem would require some really hard decisions to be made by parents. It’s just easier to attack the Constitution than to make the sacrifices for your family’s sake.


21 posted on 03/12/2018 4:37:18 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: Enlightened1
I do like the part about arming and training teachers. That's how you convert Liberals by the way<<<

The liberals I know are dead set against arming teachers.....After several conversations with them, Ive come up with a new approach that works....I AGREE WITH THEM and go on to explain how teachers by nature and training are too wishy-washy and compassionate to be trusted with students lives in a time of crisis....Boy!!!..does that pi$$ em off!!

22 posted on 03/12/2018 4:40:38 AM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Enlightened1

He’s running for the Senate, against Bill Nelson. I guess he thinks he has to take the middle ground. I still don’t like it but i’m not voting for a D, no matter what!


23 posted on 03/12/2018 4:45:44 AM PDT by jch10 (Media: prostitutes for the Democrat Party.)
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To: grania

We had a police officer, who was double dipping, on our staff as our maintenance man. You bet our students knew it, faculty too.


24 posted on 03/12/2018 4:50:23 AM PDT by jch10 (Media: prostitutes for the Democrat Party.)
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To: M-cubed

Any good military commander strives to foster uncertainty in an attackers mind.

These shooters are crazy, not stupid. Arming some teachers/custodians/office personal, would create uncertainty in a potential shooters mind. Rather then a soft target where they face little to no possibility of an armed response, they now face a hard target with a good likelihood of failure.

How many more kids would be alive today if one of the three teachers who died at Parkland had been able to fight back with something other then their bare hands?


25 posted on 03/12/2018 4:51:22 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: M-cubed

Haha! That’s great!


26 posted on 03/12/2018 4:58:39 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: dp0622

Both are true. The unconstitutional bump stock ban is still on.

They’re doing it by regulation interpretation instead of EO I think. Once the new regulation is published it’s not effective immediately. There is the public comment period followed by a final decision.

Trump has backpedaled significantly since late last week in other areas. I figure the barrage of criticism from his own base finally got through the filters of his staff. There are going to be issues from him daring politicians to ignore the NRA and not be afraid of them and the FL GOP doing just that. Untangling that little boo boo is going to be interesting.


27 posted on 03/12/2018 4:58:43 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Donald Trump poses a clear and present threat to American liberty.)
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To: Enlightened1

The biometric stuff is a hard stop no go.


28 posted on 03/12/2018 5:00:35 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Donald Trump poses a clear and present threat to American liberty.)
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To: CurlyDave; All

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The way to deal with that situation is to make it a felony, with no age restrictions, which can not be plea bargained down to take a teacher’s or staff members gun. Lifetime firearms prohibition. Every year announce on opening day that some staff have firearms, we will not say who, but explain the law.
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G-R-E-A-T. MORE splintering of the body politic as another ‘special group’ is granted special ‘right(s)’ over the rest of We the People.


29 posted on 03/12/2018 5:22:02 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Enlightened1

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Yes we can do that, and it’s already being used and sold.

We even see the technology on smart phones.
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“Excuse me, Mr. Criminal, I need to re-charge my gun so I can use it to defend myself....”

Myself, if I was going to carry around more weight via batteries, I’d want to go UP...Get that rail gun.

How ‘bout w/ every squeeze of the trigger, it collects a blood sample too?

/s (case nobody can tell)


30 posted on 03/12/2018 5:25:39 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: dp0622
So which is true? That Trump passed some executive order over the weekend that got some angry on this board or that he made no changes?

Trump signed an executive order directing the Justice Department through the ATF to ban bump fire stocks, something the ATF has said repeatedly that it did not have statutory jurisdiction over.

If the ATF can choose to ban bump fire stocks without an underlying congressional law, then they can ban any or all semiautomatic rifles as well without a law.

That is what has so many otherwise Trump supporters angry at Trump at the moment.

31 posted on 03/12/2018 5:26:56 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Reno89519

>Get rid of gun free zones and approve national reciprocity

2nd A. already covers the latter, A1S8/9th/10th covers the former.

The Right *really* needs to get out of the mindset of ‘using govt to solve govt problems’.


32 posted on 03/12/2018 5:28:24 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Enlightened1

To heck with hardening the schools.

Harden the US.

No illegals. Decent facilities for the mentally ill and make them locked with a high bar to get in and leave. Mental health evaluation s with teeth that can hold and keep dangerous mentally ill (just a small fraction of them)

Laws that keep the homeless off the streets.

Orphanages and training schools for the parentless to be trained in morality, work ethic and a trade.

Removal of most welfare supports except for the significantly disabled and mentally handicapped. Good clean institutions available for them with excellent oversight and medications if needed.

Work programs available for the recently released from welfare.

Death to illegal drug purveyors.

No more food stamps, government food trucks providing basic staples will force people to pool their resources and make food. People have been atomized from their family and friend supports. By giving them some resources and rely on pooling (ie two or four mothers pool food, child care, and other recourses, they will learn to manage themselves. Nothing like peer pressure.

No immigrants unless they have money, are sponsored by a close friend or relative who will put down lots of money on their voucher.

It would initially be chaotic, but look what it did for Singapore.


33 posted on 03/12/2018 5:33:16 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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I suggested home schooling at the liberal echo chamber that is where I work. The response was what will working mothers do? Who’s going to babysit their kids during the day? Which is really I think what the problem is. To really fix this problem would require some really hard decisions to be made by parents. It’s just easier to attack the Constitution than to make the sacrifices for your family’s sake.
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Retort #1: Get govt out of our lives and pockets that mom/dad/etc. CAN stay home w/ the kids. Remind ‘em of the 50’s: single head, house w/ picket fence, TV, car, vacation, savings, etc. and MORE Freedom(s) than we have today.

Retort #2: That’s YOUR responsibility, being the parent/guardian; educating and raising your brood. What is *MORE* important that you would hand that off to another? Given that you want to hand off those tasks, why should YOU get the tax breaks, if you’re not willing to shoulder the ‘burden’? (Hell, those w/ kids cost We more than the single/child-less [schools, parks, h’care, etc.])


34 posted on 03/12/2018 5:35:21 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Bump stocks were banned during the W administration but O’s administration decided to make them legal. As to why they became legal, I suspect they did so to foster violence and anarchy which would lead to the destruction of the 2A.

That was the intent of Fast and Furious: more violence and anarchy leading to a change in how people regarded the 2A.


35 posted on 03/12/2018 5:41:45 AM PDT by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbot)
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To: jch10
Scott can hang it up .

He and the FL Gop took the usual bad advice of the Globalist Bush / Never Trump consultant class losers . Run for the non existent center .
Rubio was the idiot behind this stupid move .

The FL gop will pay a heavy price in 2018 and Dallas Lawyer Scott will be crushed .

Running as Dem lite never works .
Just ask Jeb !

36 posted on 03/12/2018 5:41:47 AM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themselves every day)
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To: buffaloguy
Exactly !,

Why did Barry the Soros gun control puppet do that ?

Did Barry do anything that was not intended to destroy the USA .

37 posted on 03/12/2018 5:44:24 AM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themselves every day)
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To: ncalburt

Became the century’s most awesome super turbo gun salesman.


38 posted on 03/12/2018 5:57:49 AM PDT by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbot)
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To: JamesP81
Going back...and at that televised meeting...President Trump said lay everything on the table. That's when Feinstein showed her evilness for everyone to see.

So his ideas and everyone else's came to be all his ideas.

President Trump's big personal proposal was to harden the schools.

The bump stocks are in a different category...accessories. and legislated separately.

39 posted on 03/12/2018 6:06:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: i_robot73

I disagree. The ideal would be breat but it is unrealistic. We need to deal with reality. Until the government sets these things we’ll have every court in the country, every state and local government setting things.


40 posted on 03/12/2018 6:21:31 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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