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Subtitle, "And we should be talking to Moscow, Beijing, and even Tehran."
Forward Operating Base Torkham, in Nangahar Province, Afghanistan (army.mil)

Forward Operating Base Torkham, in Nangahar Province, Afghanistan (army.mil)

1 posted on 03/05/2018 9:45:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

The US military has a perfect track record since 1945. Never won a war

except Greneda


3 posted on 03/05/2018 9:50:24 PM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: SunkenCiv

You want to win in Afghanistan? You’ll have to kill everyone. Then return every 5 years to do it again.


5 posted on 03/05/2018 10:06:00 PM PST by lurk
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To: SunkenCiv

Dialog with Nazis only way out of war in Europe.


7 posted on 03/05/2018 10:20:13 PM PST by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: SunkenCiv
The New York Times?

Okay...

17 posted on 03/06/2018 2:53:07 AM PST by Eagles6
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To: SunkenCiv

What ever happened to the Northern Alliance? They weren’t big fans of the taliban, as I recall...


23 posted on 03/06/2018 4:08:11 AM PST by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Utter utter idiocy.

Talking with nationstates is one thing but you cannot talk/negotiate with terrorists nor Islamic extremist groups.

Their end goals will always remain the same.....


27 posted on 03/06/2018 5:28:51 AM PST by cranked
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To: SunkenCiv

I have been on the fence for some time about our continued long slog in Afghanistan, yet I can’t think of anything about the U.S. efforts, militarily or diplomatically (other than not acting WWII - total war style in order to win) that puts the blame for conditions there on the U.S.

Paksitan’s losses are from the Pakistan political class attempting to militarily get control of those parts of Pakistan it has seldom had control. Yes kith and kin of the Taliban are also in that fight. However, the Pakistan state is a duplicitous one and has never operated forcefully and directly against the Taliban interests in Pakistan that are directly assisting, and part of, the Taliban in Afghanistan. That was the same duplicity of theirs that let them claim they were with us in fighting the terrorists, while they helped Osama Bin Laden hide out near to their main military school.

Internally, in spite of being a nuclear state, Pakistan is a dysfunctional and politically fractured state, with different forces, different agendas operating at cross purposes to each other. The main thing that is sustained is that the military-industrial (tons of Pakistan industry owned and run by the military) and intelligence complexes continue to call most of the shots. And they do so with Islamist-centric nationalism with an inferiority complex toward India.


28 posted on 03/06/2018 6:17:13 AM PST by Wuli (qu)
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