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How Billy Graham Might Have Responded to George Will
Townhall.com ^ | March 5, 2018 | Michael Brown

Posted on 03/05/2018 9:51:42 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: jeffersondem
Will is indeed an atheist, and a rather ignorant one at that. He fails to grasp the importance of Graham; just as he has no idea why St John Paul II was so loved and revered, ditto MLK, each of whom spoke to the masses a message of peace and love, not divisiveness or antagonism.

And just to put a point to it, he has no idea what “cheap grace” is all about either. For that he should read “The Cost of Discipleship,” or its progenitor, “On Denominationalism “ by Richard (not Reinhold) Niebuhr.

61 posted on 03/05/2018 5:44:43 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Popman
he is a self avowed atheist

That explains his "Statecraft as Soulcraft" crapola.

62 posted on 03/05/2018 5:52:37 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: DannyTN
Read Bonhoeffer’s “Cost of Discipleship.” When a man is called by Jesus he is called to come and die. In that book Bonhoeffer outlines the criteria for cheap grace, taken largely from Richard Niebuhr: paraphrasing, A God without wrath who invites a sinner without repentance to enter the kingdom without judgement, ministered to by a Christ without a cross.

Will has no idea whatsoever what this means, and apparently others as well.

For this reason Bonhoeffer held that Christians will always be a rather small minority of the world.

63 posted on 03/05/2018 5:55:31 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Enchante
Reinhold Niebuhr was a liberal crapweasel, much admired by Barack Obama and others of his ilk. No wonder he didn’t like Graham, but refused to meet him face to face. I love Graham’s gracious yet devastating put down! Fantastic.
64 posted on 03/05/2018 5:59:09 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Poison Pill

“When it comes to Jefferson’s religious beliefs you aren’t on solid ground making a blanket statement like that.”

That is an interesting comment. May we see your data?


65 posted on 03/05/2018 6:27:55 PM PST by jeffersondem
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To: Kaslin

Will hasn’t been a conservative for years.


66 posted on 03/05/2018 6:36:03 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus.)
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To: jeffersondem
May we see your data?

Jefferson was a complex guy, too say the least. He was fascinated by religion and wrote a lot about it. Sometimes he sounds like a deist and sometimes he doesn't. He mentions a creator in the Declaration of Independence as you have noted. But in the first draft of the Declaration he doesn't mention a creator. Did the term get put in at Adams' insistence? I don't know.

He was criticized for being an atheist during his political career. Some of that was no doubt mud slinging but it's possible there was some truth to it.

I think he knew his place in history and he also knew that his non orthodox views might get in his way, so he was cagey about them. I don't think calling him a Deist is a bad guess, but it is a guess.

67 posted on 03/05/2018 9:13:58 PM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Kaslin

Personally, I prefer Torquemada’s approach in this particular situation.


68 posted on 03/06/2018 6:33:14 AM PST by ZULU (Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. - WC)
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To: wardaddy

I think it is very evident that National Review no longer seriously pretends to be a vehicle for analytic thinking. He reminds me of some of the phony pseudo intellectual cretins, I used to take apart in college.


69 posted on 03/06/2018 11:38:03 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Poison Pill

“I don’t think calling him a Deist is a bad guess, but it is a guess.”

More than a guess. It is a conclusion that best fits the information available.


70 posted on 03/06/2018 7:15:45 PM PST by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
the information available.

Which is...

71 posted on 03/06/2018 7:17:59 PM PST by Poison Pill
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“Which is... “

Jefferson's letter to Joseph Priestley (April 9, 1803).

Jefferson's letter to Samuel Miller (January 23, 1808).

Jefferson's letter to John Adams (October 13, 1813).

Jefferson's letter to Thomas Law (June 13, 1814).

Jefferson's letter to Benjamin Waterhouse (June 26, 1822).

Jefferson's letter to Thomas Jefferson Smith (February 21, 1825).

Start with that.

72 posted on 03/07/2018 7:08:28 AM PST by jeffersondem
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