Posted on 03/05/2018 8:12:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind
New York state? Are you insane? What conservative wants to be under the taxationand regulations of New York state. I am not knocking the manyconserative places in New York, and that would be great if the state was politically conservative. But the laws and regs are horrendous. Conservatives just dont move to New York. Not happening. I am shocked you would recommend that.
She has family in New Jersey that’s why I suggested it———and there are some beautiful towns there.
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I ambetting some German Jews said the exact same thing in 1934.
I am betting some polish people said the exact same thing before the Russians drew the Iron Curtain.
When you are hopelessly outnumbered and the trend is accelerating, moving out is about freedom and sanity, not fighting some hopeless rear guard action. At some point, staying is cultural suicide, not fighting.
I have been in California for almost 60 years and have seen cataclysmic change. The time to stay and fight wasall duing the 1970s and 1980s. It is too late now.
You have to kno when to fold.
Fair enough. But my point stands. Someone will buy up the real estate once it’s sufficiently devalued and then develop it into something nice. People with money will move in. The neighborhood will change but the new residents will be accused of being racists who are forcing out the poor people. Politicians will act and insist on low income housing quotas, eventually the neighborhood will once again have islands of prosperity surrounded by wastelands dilapidated houses occupied by people who don’t care about the property they never earned or owned. And finally the last outposts of prosperity will flee, leaving behind a combat zone until gentrifaction returns in a couple of generations. This pattern seems pretty consistent in cities (Philly, New York, Baltimore, etc) except in a few spots where it is so bad it can’t take root (Camden New Jersey, for example). Of course all my examples are from the Northeast. Maybe in the Southeast it won’t go that way.
It seems that may be the best way forward, since the state government is clearly in a state of rebellion against the Union.
I think a strong case can be made that California has violated the terms of statehood, and should therefore have its statehood suspended until the rule of law can be re-established there.
That probably won't happen, but we're clearly approaching a point where federal intervention will be required, to keep it from becoming a separate third world country.
There are beautiful towns in California. I live in one of the 5 most conservative towns in California. That does not exempt me from horrific taxation or from living in a freaking Sanctuary State or allow me to conceal carry or prevent my tax ollars going to a flood of illegal aliens, etc.
Consevatives in NJ are looking for increased freedom and sanity. Moving to NY is just more of the same as NJ.
Had my first trip to Seattle in Dec/Jan, lovely skyline. However, in the city homeless and crazies rule.
I live in an eastern state—and would not recommend it to anyone.
Our secret is to live in the boondocks—way in the boondocks.
No-one bothers us.
Thinking California can be “FIXED”???
Not Bloody Likely!
I just need a shooting range and
I’ll leave You Alone !!!
Stop peddling that defeatist bull crap.
Avondale...
That’s near Goodyear and PIR?
I hear ya Brudda!!!
LOL..
Kelli Ward is the reason Jeff Flake is quitting.
Ward is the kind of Senator we need.
McSallycain would be just as bad as Flake.
Someone whispered sweet nothings in Joe Arpaio’s ear to get him into the Senate race so that McSallycain could win the primary.
Unless Joe drops out, he will get McSallycain elected.
There's still plenty to plunder, including other states when they can get it, and so I don't see the problem going away anytime soon. Fixing it will involve cutting taxes and the dependent population, and the momentum is still very much the other way.
What ever happened to Reagan’s California?
Yea, but the girls on the California beach Arizona sand does not have. Perhaps for the the gals the manly men of Arizona might be an attraction...but the California beach is not just sand.
I’ve been out of CA for 17 years and have never looked back. WA is very liberal but so far we have not come close to jumping off the cliff, unless one lives in Seattle. I’ll take our loony libs any day here than the pure communists in Sacramento. There’s hope here I think, not in CA.
Rather, my priority was always the economy ie professional career prospects. Second was maximizing the best possible place to live based on natural beauty, weather, activities, etc.
There are millions of people in this state making coin. And I don't mean just the tech people and entertainers. Contractors and others in trades are able to earn enough to allow these 'regular' people to purchase (albeit expensive & small) homes in beautiful coastal and/or hillside communities.
It's all relative - there isn't any free lunch. It almost doesn't matter how high taxes go, because they are always passed on in the form of higher wages and costs. We have many millions of tourists and visitors who actually bear a significant burden of the costs.
And of course, they keep moving here. I had a lady from England ask me last month if it was always so 'warm'. It was sunny, around 68 at the beach path, really nothing special, just a regular day. Here reply? "That't it, I'm moving here".
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