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Fiat Chrysler is reportedly ditching diesel cars by 2022
www.theverge.com ^ | Feb 26, 2018, 10:58am EST | By Andrew J. Hawkins

Posted on 02/28/2018 8:58:33 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: HeadOn

Before they devised the heat exchanger, they said a minor drawback to the turbine engine was how, when stopped in traffic, the car behind you would be getting its front end pieces welded together.


21 posted on 02/28/2018 9:39:15 AM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: editor-surveyor

Back in the fifties, a neighbor had a Dodge power wagon. My gawd, what a monster that was.


22 posted on 02/28/2018 9:40:58 AM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: Red Badger

I never understood why the auto manufacturers never made diesel hybrids. Audi was, IIRC, getting about 70 MPG in a small car on the test track with this technology.

Electric cars are, as a group, a huge threat to the electrical grid. We’re really going to have to beef up production to take on any significant numbers of electrics.


23 posted on 02/28/2018 9:44:16 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: rigelkentaurus
"Governments are pushing hard on electric cars."

Of course they are, it's the most logical way to limit the ability of the serfs to move out of cities or otherwise have freedom of movement. That's the real "environmental" crime of diesels, they can burn a wide variety of fuels many of which can be made by enterprising individuals.

Can't have the serfs leaving their assigned metropolitan areas, now can we? So, force them into public transportation while leaving them the illusion that the 200 mile radius their vehicle can travel is the same thing as freedom of movement.

Look at how hordes from the Midwest moved to Texas in the eighties and you'll understand that the deep state fascists know they have to limit an individuals ability to move freely in order to keep cities like Baltimore, Boston, New York, Chicago, and all the CA cities from becoming ghost towns. Maybe they can't avoid the occasional black swan event like Reagan or Trump getting elected and righting the economy for a decade or so but they can make sure the serfs aren't capable of taking advantage of it.

JMHo

24 posted on 02/28/2018 9:57:28 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Red Badger

So much for that Diesel Jeep I’ve been waiting for.


25 posted on 02/28/2018 9:58:01 AM PST by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!)
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To: editor-surveyor

I’ve had Dodge trucks for many years. The new versions beat the 1970’s and 1980’s versions all to Hell.


26 posted on 02/28/2018 10:01:09 AM PST by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!)
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To: Yo-Yo

Thank you for that. It was very enjoyable.


27 posted on 02/28/2018 10:07:12 AM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: HeadOn

Leno said there were only two in private hands.


28 posted on 02/28/2018 10:08:30 AM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: CodeToad

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My eldest son, a building contractor, has a fleet of Dodges for his crews.

They are constantly falling apart, but because he has bought so many, the dealer takes them back without a gripe,and replaces them.

He drives Fords himself.
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29 posted on 02/28/2018 10:09:51 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Rashputin
Rashputin :" ..force them into public transportation
while leaving them the illusion that the 200 mile radius their vehicle can travel is the same thing as freedom of movement."

Two salient points in one line about electric powered cars.
Public transportation is effective only in urban, high population areas, where there is sufficient demand and need, and can be self-supporting.
That 200 mile radius will apply below the Mason-Dixon line, while
cold and freezing temperatures in the northern climes reduce the effective range and radius of travel.
Not only that, but any undercarriage damage will result in battery damage and presents a HAZ Mat situation and possible fire damage.

30 posted on 02/28/2018 10:23:39 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Red Badger
A diesel-electric hybrid will sell in Europe but the US gov’t will not let those be approved for the US market.

Dumb and shortsighted.

31 posted on 02/28/2018 10:45:27 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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Eco-warriors at the EPA declared war on diesels under Obozo...............


32 posted on 02/28/2018 10:59:28 AM PST by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: Red Badger

The article does not emphasize that it was imaginary worry about CO2 that prompted Euro promotion of diesel.

After years of monitoring, even dumb*** Euros admit the immediate danger from diesel pollutants is worse than the imaginary damage from CO2. And with today’s cleaner diesel, it’s probably not enough more danger than gas engines to worry about.


33 posted on 02/28/2018 11:01:21 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: editor-surveyor

I’ve never had a quality or engineering issue with a Ram.


34 posted on 02/28/2018 11:02:12 AM PST by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!)
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To: Red Badger

dump the
“womanized” so they “see better”, high road clearance cars, suvs, privet trucks, delivery trucks, jeeps etc. By the way, fire whatever idiot(S) designed,engineered,approved these “Womanized” vehicles!


35 posted on 02/28/2018 11:06:03 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: texas booster
"Dumb and shortsighted,"

I disagree, the people who run the government and have been planning their moves decades in advance. Studies done in the seventies when Buick had an early vehicle in testing showed that diesel/electric vehicles would be well accepted by the public.

That's exactly why they won't be sold here.

36 posted on 02/28/2018 11:08:56 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: editor-surveyor

My Dodge Sprinter van has a diesel engine...... a Mercedes diesel


37 posted on 02/28/2018 11:12:32 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Red Badger

DAMN! Is was saving up to buy a diesel powered Viper!


38 posted on 02/28/2018 11:20:51 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Progressivism is socialism. Venezuela is how it ends.)
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To: rigelkentaurus

“Is it as simple as the push to self driving cars - electric cars make that easier? And self driving cars give mobility control back to the government?”

My uncle has a country place. In his barn hidden under a tarp is a brilliant red Barchetta just waiting for the day when they impose the Motor Law.


39 posted on 02/28/2018 11:24:04 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Progressivism is socialism. Venezuela is how it ends.)
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To: Red Badger

It is my understanding - correct me if I’m wrong - that when processing crude oil there’s a certain balance between diesel and gasoline fuel you get out of the refinery process.

What are they going to do with all the excess diesel fuel when there are no more diesel cars? Dump it in rivers and oceans? Bury it in the desert for future generations? If they’re going to burn it in power plants or whatever, the same basic problem persists.


40 posted on 02/28/2018 12:15:18 PM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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