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BREAKING: Democratic rebuttal to GOP House Intelligence memo released
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | Daniel Chaitin

Posted on 02/24/2018 1:15:07 PM PST by RoosterRedux

The Democratic rebuttal memo to the Republican House Intelligence Committee memo on alleged government surveillance abuses was released Saturday afternoon.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., acknowledged its release at his appearance at the Conservative Political Action Conference, at about 4 p.m.

"It's just posted," he told American Conservative Union chairman Matt Schlapp, quipping that the committee website was probably already crashing due to high traffic.

Democrats say their memo was written as a rebuttal to provide greater context to a Republican memo that was released earlier this month, which outlines abuses by the FBI and the Justice Department against the Trump campaign.

Although the Republican-led House Intelligence Committee voted to make the Democrat’s memo public earlier this month, President Trump refused to declassify it, citing "significant concerns for the national security and law enforcement interests."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


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Point by point rebuttal from HPSCI ...

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/democrat_memo_charge_and_response.pdf


101 posted on 02/24/2018 2:49:32 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Jacquerie
It's amazing the lengths they go to defned Ohr. From Fox:

Fox News first reported in December that Ohr had been demoted from the position of associate deputy attorney general, after it was revealed he had conducted undisclosed meetings with dossier author Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS, the opposition research firm that produced the salacious document.

From lying liar Schiff's memo:

The Majority describes Ohr as a senior DOJ official who "worked closely with the Deputy Attorney General Yates, and later Rosenstein" in order to imply Ohr was somehow involved in the FISA process, but there is no indication this is the case

Ohr worked directly for Yates when Yates signed the warrant usng the dossier that Ohr helped arrange.

102 posted on 02/24/2018 2:51:56 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Cboldt

Sessions is recused. Rosenstein won’t be doing it as he is part of the FISA conspiracy (he signed one of the related FISA applications).

Nunes and others have already indicated they are prepared for the appointment of an SP. President Trump has given him the green light.

Although he could, Trump will not appoint directly as the optics would be detrimental.

You are referring to the expiration of the independent counsel law that allowed for Congress appointing an SP directly.

Congress can convene and in less than a half day, write a limited reinstatement of the expired law to fund an SP in a budget resolution using a simple majority vote. The President can sign it the same day.

The democrats can howl. No one cares.

I don’t see why Sessions could not unrecuse himself for the sole purpose of appointing an independent SP as there are clear implications of his own deputy involvement and there are substantial crimes to be investigated and pressure to investigate those crimes. After appointing, Sessions can step back into his recusal and his dormancy.


103 posted on 02/24/2018 2:53:52 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

“Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad, Russia, Trump is bad ...”

...and Marsha!


104 posted on 02/24/2018 2:54:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: semimojo
"closely-held investigative team"

That's right, everything in the Schiff memo is weasel worded. Obviously the DOJ's Ohr was working on the dossier from the beginning, and he was probably not the only one.

105 posted on 02/24/2018 2:55:36 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: RoosterRedux

Idiots in California can think what they will, it doesn’t matter.

What matters is that Congress holds ethics hearings concerning his involvement in human trafficking and child prostitution. As they gather evidence and establish probable cause, the hearing committee can recommend he be suspended while they hand over evidence to DOJ to prosecute.


106 posted on 02/24/2018 2:57:49 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage
I was just correcting the impression left by your "it's time for Congress to take the President's green light in appointing a special prosecutor to bring charges." SC are not appointed by Congress.
107 posted on 02/24/2018 2:58:44 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Bruce Kurtz
J. Tarlov rattles and scrambles all over the place, and talks so fast, she makes my head spin...

I realize I'm up in years, and am bilateral Cochlear Implant so fast talkers always makes my head spin, but she does it the best...like most I avoid her and reach for a remote...

Seems they use her often on #Outnumbered during their week day hour show, so I have avoided that as well, and I really like Harris Faulkner. so that doesn't help Fox's ratings at all..

JMO

108 posted on 02/24/2018 2:59:45 PM PST by haircutter
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To: Hostage
The trafficking proof ensnares many DC insiders and others.

This case cannot be rushed.

Trump has insider knowledge of what is going on.

This will take time.

Sessions is building a case that would shock everyone in this country.

There is evil afoot.

It is going to come crashing down...but they case has to be built.

In fact, it is being built.

Soon, all will be exposed.

109 posted on 02/24/2018 3:03:18 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: jacquej
Am I the only one who can’t stand Judith Miller?

You are not alone.

110 posted on 02/24/2018 3:04:59 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (We)
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To: richardtavor

The Democratic and Republican memos were both written like a closing argument on a death penalty case. A lot of emotion, but different points of view. However, Judith Miller (on fox news) sticks to the points of Trump hasn’t done anything to punish the Russians. I wonder what she wanted him to do - tell Vlad to “cut it out”, but then let him invade another country, like Obama did? She, like her other media friends, do not see the harm that they have personally done to America’s trust of the agencies (or the media itself). (In my opinion)


Congress Investigating Whether Obama Admin Used Phony Dossier For IC Joint Analysis Russia Report https://bluntforcetruth.com/?p=20503

https://twitter.com/chuckwoolery/status/967155011921895430


111 posted on 02/24/2018 3:05:13 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: Cboldt

> “SC are not appointed by Congress.”

You are not Congress. You seem to think Congress and other parts of the government operate according to some outside authority that you prescribe.

Congress can make laws and pass bills for the President to sign. I described one scenario where that could all be done in less than a day.

Congress has precedent in the Independent Counsel Law that expired. Under that law, they could most certainly appoint an SP and they can do so today after minimal legislative maneuvering.

Ken Starr was appointed by a three-Judge Panel.

Stop posting like you are some sort of arbiter of what government can and can’t do. The only check on Congress is the Constitution. Appointing independent counsels including SPs is not unconstitutional. They can do it. They can pass a budget resolution with a special rider for a limited reinstatement of the old law. They can do a lot more as well. The President will sign what they send him.


112 posted on 02/24/2018 3:09:18 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: DoughtyOne
The memo is weasel worded and intends to obfuscate along with continuing the narrative that you summarized. But more importantly it often uses the Big Lie. In the last paragraph they accuse Nunes of ignoring Strzok's acknowledged role in preparing a public declaration, by then Director Comey, about former Secretary Clinton's "extreme carelessness" in handling classified information, which greatly damaged Clinton's public reputation in the days just prior to the presidential election.

The Big Lie is that Strzok "greatly damaged" Clinton's reputation. In fact Stzok worked continuously to exonerate Clinton and watered down the language about Clinton's crimes. From CNN: "Electronic records show Peter Strzok, who led the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server as the No. 2 official in the counterintelligence division, changed Comey's earlier draft language describing Clinton's actions as "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless," the sources said." That was done in July, not "days just prior to the election".

113 posted on 02/24/2018 3:09:41 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: frog in a pot

I agree about the mainstream media not being interested in the facts. However, there is no role for the courts to force them to do their jobs. That would be illegal under the First Amendment. With the Internet has come New Media that goes around these lazy, self-important “news” reporters. C”N”N’s “reporter” stood outside the White House tonight “reporting” that Nunez’s memo involved “conspiracies. . . about the deep state.” They leave out important facts and constantly say “conspiracy” rather than just being objective and professional (or at least competent).

They sought a warrant last July and didn’t get one. When they applied with the dossier in ? October, it was granted.

Catherine Herridge is on Fox now saying that the Dems were saying it was all about the dossier and that Trump & Co. needed to be investigated. Now, she said, they’re saying it didn’t play a crucial role. They need to release the underlying court papers so that anyone who wants the truth can see it for themselves.


114 posted on 02/24/2018 3:10:39 PM PST by NotAlwaysTruculent
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To: palmer

It’s amazing the lengths they go to defned Ohr. From Fox:
Fox News first reported in December that Ohr had been demoted from the position of associate deputy attorney general, after it was revealed he had conducted undisclosed meetings with dossier author Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS, the opposition research firm that produced the salacious document.

From lying liar Schiff’s memo:

The Majority describes Ohr as a senior DOJ official who “worked closely with the Deputy Attorney General Yates, and later Rosenstein” in order to imply Ohr was somehow involved in the FISA process, but there is no indication this is the case

Ohr worked directly for Yates when Yates signed the warrant usng the dossier that Ohr helped arrange.


Ohr took the contents of the dirty dossier produced by hjs wife to the FBI...purportedly without informing that his wife had been involved and that he had a prior and ongoing relationship with Glen Simpson/Fusion GPS and Steele.


115 posted on 02/24/2018 3:10:45 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: RoosterRedux

I agree. Let’s hope Sessions is really taking it on.


116 posted on 02/24/2018 3:11:05 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: RoosterRedux

Upon first glance the main argument seems to be that probable cause did exist to surveil Page, if not the Trump campaign as a whole. There hasn’t as of yet been any evidence released to support that.


117 posted on 02/24/2018 3:12:12 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: palmer
It's the Deep State and the Shadow Government against Trump.

The enemy is backed into a corner, probably by the Military and NSA...and Trump. But they will fight to the death.

Actually, they know that death is their reward.

As Hillary said about a Trump victory..."We are all gonna hang."

She's right because she's traitor...and she knows it. Obama knows it too...and so does ValJar.

The manure is really gonna hit the fan...and America will emerge victorious.

118 posted on 02/24/2018 3:17:18 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Cboldt

Is the whiner Schiff now going to write a counter to the counter memo?


119 posted on 02/24/2018 3:18:52 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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