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Texas rancher sues feds, state after finding surveillance camera (Operation Drawbridge)
San Antonia Express News ^
| 02/12/2018
| Jason Buch and Joana Santillana
Posted on 02/23/2018 6:14:19 AM PST by Kid Shelleen
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Interesting case.The full title of the article:
Texas rancher sues feds, state after finding surveillance camera on his property
Here is aother article about the case from ARS Technica:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/rancher-finds-creepy-and-un-american-spy-cam-tied-to-his-tree-sues-feds/
To: Kid Shelleen
I’m almost always a very strong advocate of private property rights, but if Señor Ricardo Palacios is unwilling to work with Border Patrol on policing the Mexican border, then take it via eminent domain, compensate him fair market value and call it a day. This man cannot hold a nation hostage over his flippin’ ranch.
To: Kid Shelleen
There are many drug shipments and human smuggling operations moving across ranches at the border. A 30’ wall to keep illegals off his land should be supported by this ranch owner. Instead, we see stories about the ranchers whining about President Trump wanting to build the wall. Why?
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:18:36 AM PST
by
txrefugee
To: txrefugee
A lot of them are Texicans, they’re used to hiring border jumpers, and they fear that access to water will be cut off. I’m sure some think it’ll spoil their view too, ala Massachusetts offshore wind farms and the Kennedys.
To: RegulatorCountry
If it keeps illegals, drug runners, human trafficking off my property, I’m all for it. However, I’d want to be informed before they install it.
Could be the rancher is into some shady business he doesn’t want monitored.
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:26:31 AM PST
by
bgill
(CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
To: Kid Shelleen
I don’t have time to read ... is this a pro-amnesty lawyer, or a pissed off American being infringed upon by an intrusive government ?
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:29:08 AM PST
by
knarf
(I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
To: knarf
Requires subscription to read, so useless.
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:30:37 AM PST
by
SaxxonWoods
(DACA is going to be a riot!)
To: RegulatorCountry
Choices:
1) The Feds can take the land by eminent domain and pay the guy something they think is fair.
2) The Feds can build a wall on his land and tell him to shove it.
3) The Feds can install surveillance equipment on his land as a “virtual wall”.
He doesn’t like choice #3?
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:31:36 AM PST
by
ClearCase_guy
(The revolution will not be televised (at least, not by CNN).)
To: txrefugee
if there are thousands of ranchers along the border, tge MSM will focus on the dozens who like an open border.
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:33:31 AM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. My life is my own.)
To: txrefugee
Because the Hildabeest was up 10,000 points in the polls and was supposed to win!
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:36:13 AM PST
by
gr8eman
(Since God has been banished from our classrooms, Satan has filled the void.)
To: Kid Shelleen
This story does not make sense to me. BP has been using sensors, cameras, other technology on the border for many years and it has not been a secret. I am wondering why this is an issue now with this rancher? More to this story.
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:39:03 AM PST
by
Tammy8
(Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
To: RegulatorCountry
I also believe in private property rights, but I also recognize that it’s more of a concept than a reality. Very few people own property without public easements, and I don’t see how you could own land at a national border and not expect them to want some degree of access. I’m not suggesting it’s a bad fight. He probably should. But if the cameras are point at the border and not anywhere he should reasonably expect some personal privacy, then I have to wonder if his motives are pure. Didn’t click the article though. Someone could mention if these facts were covered
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:39:36 AM PST
by
z3n
To: ClearCase_guy
4. Give the 1st Special Operations Group a quarter mile free fire zone along the border. The first time someone hears the roar of a Spectre’s mini’s they’ll get the idea.
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:43:29 AM PST
by
CMSMC
To: knarf
I have a feeling its a pro-amnesty lawyer. The article quotes an ACLU attorney complaining about invasion of privacy and never addresses the criminality going on at the border crossings. As one of story comments suggested the article tries to frame the problem as a constitutional issue and foreshadows the filed day the ACLU will have with a virtual wall as opposed to a real wall which would solve most of these problems.
I recommend reading the article because it demonstrates how one malcontent can really gum things up.
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:44:03 AM PST
by
Kid Shelleen
((Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong))
To: bgill
The man is a lawyer...... terminal shadiness
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:44:17 AM PST
by
bert
(K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
To: SaxxonWoods
I was able to read without a subscription. I used both Chrome and Opera browsers. Maybe it gives you one or two free articles.
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:47:56 AM PST
by
Kid Shelleen
((Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong))
To: Kid Shelleen
I use chrome. Not able to read.
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:49:36 AM PST
by
SaxxonWoods
(DACA is going to be a riot!)
To: Kid Shelleen
Encinal is about 40 miles north of the border.
To: SaxxonWoods
Try these links (Gizmodo and ARS Technica)
I was able to find different stories by searching for "Ricardo Palacios texas rancher". Besides all the sob deportation stories we will be also reading a lot of stories like these.
https://gizmodo.com/man-sues-feds-after-finding-spy-camera-on-his-property-1823229134
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/rancher-finds-creepy-and-un-american-spy-cam-tied-to-his-tree-sues-feds/
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posted on
02/23/2018 6:55:23 AM PST
by
Kid Shelleen
((Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong))
To: Tammy8
It’s almost 40 miles from the border.
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