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Posted on 02/18/2018 3:53:54 AM PST by SMGFan
Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!
11:08 PM - 17 Feb 2018
James Comey and who else is to blame. Blame on local level field office?
The only explanation that makes sense is that the Deep State swamp creatures WANT school shootings, and the bloodier they are, the more they like them.
“Except the calls to the FBI were not crazy calls “
My neighbor sounded totally convincing. You have to ask, how many calls of this nature do they get? Of those, how many are false or even delusional? The FBI and every police agency are buried in real crimes that have already been committed. How many murders are solved? How many break-ins result in an arrest? How many of those result in a conviction? Unless you know the person calling in and have a history of good information from that person, how do you evaluate the call?
Perhaps things could have been done, but when you take a call like that and you have your boss beating on you to do something on his agenda list, what do you do? Especially when you might have taken twenty of those calls and none of them panned out...
Hind sight it awesome. But most agencies are buried in and totally committed to resolving crimes that have already happened.
Vanity - Florida massacre culprit trio, Cruz (Murderer), Wray (FBI), & Israel (Broward Sheriff).
and then you have swatting.
Because you had a bad experience doesn’t mean the FBI behaved well in this circumstance. Clearly, they did not.
The FBI has a huge, multi-billion dollar counter-intelligence division. The FBI failed at 9/11, Ft. Hood, Boston, San Bernardino, Orlando, Parkland, and tried to overthrow a duly elected President. This is “counter-intelligence?”
Stop making excuses for a bloated, politicized, dangerous, and failed organization.
On some occasions of criminal-political-social significance, news reports have stated that the FBI would bring in agent resources from other locations to aid in an investigation. In so doing, to what extent are FBI operations in “loaned-out” areas affected? Viewing the scope of FBI operations, is it frequently a “one-armed paperhanger” operation?
In a log ago reading critical of Hoover, I recall a statement that basically said that the Bureau’s impressive case closure stats were made possible in part by inclusion of closure rates on relatively minor crimes such as auto theft. Not so much success in areas like counter-intel and organized crime. In other words, “it’s all in how you work the numbers”.
‘Don’t Embarrass the Bureau” – DEB, was once an operational guide to agent conduct. The Kurrent Kast of Klowns at the “Eye” is truly a hurtful embarrassment.
How many? Too many. These 17 deaths can be laid right at the feet of the Democrat party. Specifically, Comey, Pelosi, Schumer and Hillary.
The FBI was far too busy investigating the Dem theories on Russian "collusion" to give a crap about one of a thousand tips on a possible shooter.
PERFECT!!!!!!
(splodey heads a splodin all over liberalverse)
Many lawsuits coming against the feds and the state. Tens of millions will be paid out.
“Sad”?
It is a seditious ATROCITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The SJWs will make false claims against every gun owner in America and sit back while the swat people shoot and kill everybody in the house and then triumphantly pose with the dead owner's guns as "proof" that they were up to no good.
No good will come from any of this.
its all part of the lefts plan
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Wrong. The fbi is set up to handle this stuff. They have a hotline, protocols and procedures in place for handling exactly this.
And blew it. They admitted it already, that they failed to notify their Miami field office, which would have investigated it.
They already stated that.
The fbi already admitted they didn’t follow their own procedures.
They blew the youtube tip as well. Said they couldn’t investigate cuz the comment was deleted. Pure BS! They had the screen capture! The guy USED HIS REAL NAME! And they are experts at digging up actual users behind screen names. If they wanted it, they would have had it in hours.
The FBI blew it 8 ways to hell.
Fire Sessions and Wray!!!!
“Maybe you are right if there were only a couple of calls (as with the FBI), but wouldn’t you think that after receiving 39 calls about a specific person (as the Broward County Sheriff’s office did), that someone might actually realize that something is going on that’s worth looking into? “
My neighbor made over twenty calls that resulted in a deputy coming out to talk to me. Once, the deputy was ready to draw as my neighbor reported he’d caught me “looking in his little children’s” window. It wasn’t even dark yet and I’d just gotten home from work. I was still wearing a tie and formal shoes. I was able to prove I hadn’t left the house because I had full time video on all entrances. (”Little children” is statutory language that would essentially allow him to ban me from living in my house. Long story.)
I found out later, through my lawyer, that my neighbor had made numerous visits to the sheriff and filed many documents as well. For the most part, the sheriff was minimally responsive because there are so many of these nut cases. Even if there was something glaring, the agencies react slowly and that helps defend law abiding citizens from getting swatted.
We can only expect so much of our agencies. If they give us more, we might not like it. And, let’s suppose they went out and arrested this kid. What would they do with him? Somebody has to pay for, what we in Florida refer to as, “Baker-acting.” Whose budget does that come out of? And, how long can he be held? Indefinitely? Because that is what would be required to prevent him from doing harm. People don’t come out of psychological evaluation cured. No judge would allow incarceration based on a psychological evaluation. He’d be free to go in probably twenty-four to seventy two hours.
Everybody is angry because it’s a problem and problems have solutions. Well, sometimes problems don’t have solutions. Or, at least solutions people are prepared to pay for.
This is really a post-1960s problem with judges, who have been required by the fallout of long-ago decisions by the Supreme Court to prevent local authorities from locking up violent psychos in looney bins. I suspect you know this. Mental hospitals have been closed because of these policies, and the psychos, plus harmless crazies who just can't take care of themselves, are on the streets. It has never been allowed in civilized history to subsidize dangerously crazy people and let them run around unrestricted.
To make things worse, our crazies are treated as outpatients with drugs such as anti-depressants, which can cause side-effects that include mass murder. I've read that most US mass murderers of recent decades have been on anti-depressants--those who were not simply tripping on the Koran.
Trump is right to use this incident to help destroy the reputation of the FBI brass. They didn't follow their own procedures. He has to grind them down in the public eye first, so it doesn't look opportunistic on his part to start firing them now. He is using the media, so every time the enemedia screams how bad the shooting is "because Second Amendment," he drops into the conversation that the FBI caused it by failing to follow their own procedures.
The public outcry will keep building against the FBI brass, and in their weakened state, they can be dismantled by Congress and Trump. It's the way it has to go.
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