Deputies called to suspected shooter’s home 39 times over seven years

NY Post ^ | February 16, 2018 | Yaron Steinbuch

[txrefugee]

“The problem is...you can’t arrest someone unless they commit a crime.”
Don’t tell Mueller that. He’s planning to arrest President Trump when no crime was committed. (Collusion with the Russians, even if true, is not a crime.)

[1Old Pro]

1) See Something Say Something; CHECK
2) It takes a village; CHECK
3) notify the FBI; CHECK
4) Government accountability, oops dropped the ball on this one.

[mewzilla]

If this guy didn’t fit the criteria, the act is worthless. Likely even more so after changes made to it in 2017. FL’s Baker Act should be part of this discussion.

[bmwcyle]

Hello this is the police, “Kill now”.

[bmwcyle]

Hello this is the police, “Kill now”.

[hoosiermama]

His layer described him as a young man with a brain that was not fully developed. SHE will stand by him till the end ----😡

[vette6387]

“Armed guards are needed.”

And metal detectors. It’s sad, but that is reality. And they need to make schools a single point of entry. Schools are no longer big square buildings for the most part. The ones that are spread out with “wings” like the one I attended back in the 1950’s are nightmares to secure.

[um1990]

It’s Intellectual Laziness.

I’m hearing the same from a few supposed “Intellectuals” at my kids’ mostly Conservative Private School.

[dragnet2]

The cop targeted the suspect on the street because he matched the shooter description. It was not a happenstance contact.

[Dawn53Fl]

From the description I heard, the school had over 3,000 students. And there were many buildings. It would be impossible to buzz everyone into the buildings one by one. A key card system would be better but probably chaos because kids for get their card, and a card can be stolen too...also the queues would be long waiting to swipe your card, even if you had a couple card ID card readers.

I can’t see how increased security could help these large schools unless you increase the amount of security to at least one per building. A nearby huge
high school has about 10 distinct buildings...and that doesn’t even count the
outdoor sporting areas like the football stadium or open exercise fields.

[robroys woman]

Well, not completely happenstance. But mostly. The description was fairly broad. That’s the point. The cop almost didn’t bother.

He was a teen male between 5’7 and 6’2 and alone...

[Presbyterian Reporter]

In a related story, the sheriff is trying to cover up his incompetence for not incarcerating Cruz under the Baker Act for at least one of the 39 times his deputies had to go to Cruz’ house.

“”””Sheriff in Florida shooting calls for power to detain over social media
by Daniella Silva
The county sheriff in charge of investigating the mass school shooting in Parkland, Florida, pleaded with lawmakers on Thursday to give police and doctors more power to involuntarily hospitalize people for psychiatric evaluation over violent and threatening social media posts.

The sheriff, Scott Israel, of Broward County, described the accused shooter’s social media posts as “very disturbing” at a news conference and asked state and federal legislators to expand the state’s Baker Act, which says a person can be detained against their will for up to 72 hours under certain circumstances.

Israel said the Baker Act allows law enforcement or medical professionals to confine a person involuntarily, “but you have to have a reason, you have to be able to articulate that they’re a threat to themselves or a threat to someone else.””””

[Kickass Conservative]

>>>he pulled the fire alarm (self-herding) = fish in a barrel (alarm would also make shots harder to hear)<<<

The obvious answer, make Fire Alarms Illegal.

I’ll Email Jimmy Kimmel with the suggestion.

He also took an UBER to get to the School. Make UBER Illegal too.

[olivia3boys]

Yes every school in CA has dozens of outside doors and kids eat outside too daily. Warm temps and little rain.

Every classroom opens to the outside and there are lots of portables too in CA.

[dragnet2]

Ya know, you’ll hear people laughing coast to coast next time the cops and FBI all stand in front of the cameras telling everyone, “If you see or hear anything suspicious call us, call the FBI or local police so we can do our jobs”.

This looks really bad...

[Sooth2222]

Psych wards are needed.

That's the big problem.

Community Mental Health Act of 1963 -- "mainstreaming" severe mental illness.

Instead of being treated, sometimes involuntarily, many end up in prison or jail. And they aren't treated at all.

I find it hard to believe that jailing the mentally ill is cheaper than treating them in mental hospitals.

And mass shooting victims aren't the only casualties of this. They are probably only a tiny fraction. Look at the Hepatitis A epidemic in California, spread by homeless people defecating in the street.

[Presbyterian Reporter]

We have far too many crazy people wandering around and no one wants to do anything about them.

1. Law enforcement ignores.
2. Social workers ignore.
3. Teachers ignore
4. Mental health doctors ignore.

There are probably some other groups who have a responsibility to deal with crazy people, but each group passes off the problem to someone else.

Then when one of these crazy people hurt someone, the leftists start screaming for more laws and regulations to not let it happen again.

But no amount of new laws will help when those responsible do nothing under the current laws.

[dragnet2]

Wrong. The description was perfect. Age, height, burgundy shirt and the suspect was walking down a street less than a mile from the mass murder scene.

No doubt the second the cop laid eyes on the suspect, he was confident they had their man.

[VietVet876]

A lifetime supply of Foot-Longs where he’s headed.

[ozarkgirl]

Thank you. That was some interesting reading. Never was a fan of “Mother Jones” but their article (1 of the 3) was nice with the timeline.

I don’t know what the answer is for psychiatric patients, hate to institutionalize them against their will and how do we decide whether or not they are a threat to society? I don’t even care at this point if they are a threat to themselves, just if they are a threat to others.