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1 posted on 02/16/2018 7:46:10 AM PST by Helicondelta
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Aren’t all their meetings closed door?


2 posted on 02/16/2018 7:47:15 AM PST by Mercat
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With John Roberts on that court I’m not optimistic.


3 posted on 02/16/2018 7:47:56 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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I think the meeting is about stopping these Federal Judges from playing their games with immigration.....forever. In other words, once the USSC rules, they cannot challenge it again and again which is what they have done.


5 posted on 02/16/2018 7:49:40 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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7 posted on 02/16/2018 7:50:37 AM PST by 11th_VA (People who deny reality often do not live to regret it.)
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It is NOT the role of the court to jump into a passionate matter like Superman and render an emotional result. Courts are intended to be rational, well thought out matters that follow procedure and reflect on the arguments at hand. Not take a political side. Not kowtow to the emotional whims of the public.

If the court intervenes - they’re taking a political action and declaring their bias.


9 posted on 02/16/2018 7:51:49 AM PST by Skywise
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An illegal obama EO + ONE liberal Federal Judge ruling = NATIONAL IMMIGRATION LAW

I learned that in publik education


10 posted on 02/16/2018 7:52:01 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Sotomayer & Pagan & Ginsburg should recluse themselves.


12 posted on 02/16/2018 7:52:43 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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DACA was never legal.

However, the Supreme Court is not above making illegal things legal.


14 posted on 02/16/2018 7:53:20 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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The problem is a couple thousand little generals out there each of whom has the power to shut down the government.

We don’t give that power to Congress or to POTUS.

Why should some tin horn, dictatorial, unelected black robe out in true believer la la land get to shut down anything without the real constitutional powers having to first sign off on it?


15 posted on 02/16/2018 7:54:09 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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Probably need to see whether to stop or endorse judicial activism. Hopefully the see the problem and stay both rulings.


19 posted on 02/16/2018 7:58:20 AM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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Activist Judges have created a constitutional crisis that is on the verge of creating a direct threat to the power of the Supreme Court. In other words, the whole game of judicial review is in danger of being permanently exposed. Judicial Review is not a power expressly set forth in the Constitution. The power was grabbed by Justice Marshall in Marbury v. Madison and is allegedly derived by the Court’s sworn duty to uphold the Constitution in Article Six of the Constitution. That would include upholding powers granted to the Executive by the Constitution. Flop sweat time.


20 posted on 02/16/2018 7:58:55 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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I guess I don’t understand why this is not an open and shut case. Unless I’m wrong DACA is not a law. It was nothing more than an EO from a president. If a president can issue an arbitrary EO on this subject it is 100% clear that another president has the same right. Issue an EO in the opposite direction on the subject. Trump can do away with DACA.


21 posted on 02/16/2018 8:02:11 AM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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How stupid do you need to be to be a Judge?
Its NOT a law so there is nothing to review.

In the Private Sector, when a new CEO comes in and wants the bathrooms painted red, he does it because he is the boss.
If the Board of Directors or stockholders don’t like it, they fire him.


22 posted on 02/16/2018 8:02:16 AM PST by Zathras
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What about illegal does they not understand?


23 posted on 02/16/2018 8:02:19 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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This is ridiculous. President Trump revoked obama's Executive Order. How can that revocation be unconstitutional? If it is then can we say that all immigration enforcement prior to that EO was unconstitutional? Ridiculous.

We need a revolution in this country!

27 posted on 02/16/2018 8:05:07 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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IF the rule of law means anything in this country, the Obama EO should be immediately declared unconstitutional in a 9 to 0 vote. It would also mean Trump’s delay would be unconstitutional as well because you can’t delay suspending an unconstitutional order.


28 posted on 02/16/2018 8:07:14 AM PST by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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Will it be “Feelings or Law” ? LOL


30 posted on 02/16/2018 8:09:35 AM PST by butlerweave
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”The federal government acted on the judge's opinion that the department improperly terminated DACA, citing a violation of the Administrative Procedure Act.

From Wikipedia:”The APA requires that to set aside agency action that are not subject to formal trial-like procedures, the court must conclude that the regulation is "arbitrary and capricious, an abuse of discretion, or otherwise not in accordance with the law."

DAPA has been found to be illegal -assumption DACA is too- but an act that exists to prohibit unlawful regulations and policies now protects unlawful policies.

46 posted on 02/16/2018 8:37:43 AM PST by moehoward
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Original Jurisdiction in Constitutional matters.

Separation of Powers is a core Constitutional matter.

ALL other federal judges hate this.


48 posted on 02/16/2018 8:41:13 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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The power of the Executive Branch, of which the President is in charge, regarding the immigration status of non-citizens and other matters dealing with security is pretty much unlimited.

Jimmy Carter basically kicked out all Iranians after the hostage crisis started in November, 1979. I believe that it was challenged (by one of those being kicked out), and Carter was backed (again, if I remember correctly) unanimously by the Supreme Court.

I think that the Court pretty much HAS to rule that Trump has this authority.

BTW, if I was Trump and the administration loses this case, there is still a very powerful weapon that he has. About 600,000 illegals registered under Obama’s (unconstitutional) DACA program...but about 1.2 million that were eligible did not. Even if the administration loses, those 1.2 million are not protected by ANYTHING. Round them up, stat. Take 10,000 of them on Day One and toss them out immediately, and let the rest know that they have 30 days to leave the country or they’ll face a very long time in the klink, before being unceremoniously tossed out on their asses, after having been fined to the full extent of the law for all of their crimes (including tax evasion, of which many of them are undoubtedly guilty). Oh, and those 1.2 million got here as minors...find their illegal parents, and do the same to them.

What I think is likely to happen is that Trump wins in the USSC. After that, the Dems HAVE to deal with him to settle DACA...and if Trump really wants to press his advantage, remove the “path to citizenship” from the compromise bill. Let them stay for life - provided they pay taxes and otherwise obey the law - but no voting rights, EVER. Let’s then see if the Dems actually care about these people, or only votes (and, yes, we all know that it is the latter). Oh, and chain migration and the visa lottery end, and the wall gets paid for in its entirety. I’d also like to see an end to birthright citizenship for the children of 2 non-citizens without permanent resident status, but that’s a bit of a stretch. Either the Dems compromise, or the deportations begin.


49 posted on 02/16/2018 8:44:53 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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