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Whatever Happened to the Republic ? Everyone These Days Calls it a Democracy
Artful Dilettante ^ | February 4, 2018 | Artful Dilettante

Posted on 02/04/2018 1:17:44 PM PST by huckfillary

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To: jeffersondem

ha!
yes, the 1860’s and 70’s were not friendly to the Republic our Founders gave us


21 posted on 02/04/2018 1:53:46 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: huckfillary

Maybe it’s because we are less and less a Republic.

To cite just one instance of what got us here, thank President GW Bush. The Commerce Clause, in Gonzales v Raisch, was interpreted to mean the federal government can regulate, as dissenting Justice Thomas put it, everything down to church suppers.

The enumerated powers clause in the Constitution was the tent pole that kept the canvas of federal governance from descending onto the people in the stands. It’s been missing in action since maybe the Civil War. But the Commerce Clause’s demise blew down the last remaining barrier to federal power.

If you think of a dirigible with all its inner compartments, that’s what we’ve lost. The US is one big blimp. If I had to give it a name, I’d go with nation-state.


22 posted on 02/04/2018 1:56:08 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: MrEdd

Or Jindal or Rubio or Haley or George P. Bush.
The last one is likely the real reason the GOP wanted the protections of the natural born citizen clause eliminated.


23 posted on 02/04/2018 1:57:00 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: huckfillary

In my humble opinion there is nothing magical about a republic: The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; The People’s Republic of China; The Islamic Republic of Iran; The Republic of Cuba.
On the other hand: “Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’—Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947
https://www.winstonchurchill.org/resources/quotes/the-worst-form-of-government/

“Democracy is worth dying for, because it’s the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man.”—Ronald Reagan
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/ronald_reagan_387305

The structure of American government is republican. The process of American government is via representative democracy (voting).


24 posted on 02/04/2018 2:03:18 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: huckfillary
The word Republic has all but disappeared from our political lexicon. It has erroneously been replaced by Democracy.

Secular humanist libtards are for democratic equality and economic democracy. This is the utopia which evolution is inevitably leading. Getting rid of republic and using democracy instead is part of their thought control.

25 posted on 02/04/2018 2:15:08 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: huckfillary

Well, when did our pubic school teachers stop doing the Pledge of Allegiance regularly?

“...and to the republic for which it stands.”

Calling America a democracy is right there with “separation of church and state”, a lie.

Lawyers are public enemy #1, pubic school teachers are #2.


26 posted on 02/04/2018 2:16:24 PM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: huckfillary

Worry not. It’s still a Republic. For now.


27 posted on 02/04/2018 2:17:29 PM PST by Rapscallion (The tragedy of politics is that it can make people hate each other.)
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To: huckfillary

You’ll note that the people who do this don’t call it “a democracy” or “the democracy”, they always call it “OUR democracy”.

Because that’s how they see it. Republic is gone, “our democracy” has replaced it, and the emphasis is on OUR, as in NOT YOUR.


28 posted on 02/04/2018 2:27:54 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust Sessions. The Great Awakening is at hand...MAGA!)
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To: Bryanw92
Because the common use of “democracy” is that of Marx, which is that democracy is the political version of a communist economic system. When they speak of “our Democracy” or “democratic ideals”, they refer to the people’s ability to vote themselves money from the public treasury—which, of course, is the well-known method by which freedom actually dies.

All true, but I think the common usage issue is mostly a word association ploy that is aimed at ignorant, intellectually lazy voters. Of course the Democrats, politicians and voters alike, are going to use the word "democracy"; it makes the Democrats sound like the party that should naturally be in power. They eschew the use of the word "republic" because it suggests that the Republican Party has a right to exist, after all.

It is a deception on a scale that would make Goebbels smile in admiration, and it is probably more effective than we would dare to estimate.

29 posted on 02/04/2018 2:35:54 PM PST by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: loveliberty2

Thank you for the Jubilee link.


30 posted on 02/04/2018 2:47:03 PM PST by kallisti (soon enough the time will tell about the circus in the wishing well)
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To: Bellagio

You are spot on. I was hoping that someone had already mentioned that and was going to so if no one else had. Just one more of the ruinous ideas to come out of the Wilson administration. It’s sad that a hundred years later, no one alive remembers why it was a part of the founding document or why it was changed (a hint: Progressives).


31 posted on 02/04/2018 2:49:59 PM PST by beelzepug (The permanent political class that runs this country is...the great(est) danger we face)
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To: huckfillary
Gone!

Long gone!

Most likely forever! (Unless the tree gets watered again)

32 posted on 02/04/2018 2:53:19 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Bryanw92

Our education system is partly to blame. It is easy to ‘feel’ how a majority rule is best for all, but unless you understand the real meaning of ‘democracy’ you don’t understand how a ‘democracy’ can vote into existence SLAVERY. (majority rules, right?)

The concept of a Republic recognizes the smallest minority, that being the individual. Individual civil and human rights, not given by the majority or government, but by God, as a presumption to base all other government on and limit it with.

With a Republic, you don’t have to worry about black rights, gay rights, hispanic rights, because the rights of the individual trump ALL other principles, protecting everyone, their rights, property and opportunities,,, but the ‘feelings’ of the socialist movement are the intellectually lazy way too many follow today.


33 posted on 02/04/2018 2:58:17 PM PST by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abramsp)
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To: Charles Martel

Everyone should listen/read Mark Levin’s deconstruction of Hegel from last week.


34 posted on 02/04/2018 3:05:00 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: huckfillary
Whatever Happened to the Republic ? Everyone These Days Calls it a Democracy

Not me.
The closest I come is using the "democratic" party label.

They hate it!
Heh heh...

35 posted on 02/04/2018 3:10:22 PM PST by publius911 (Am I pissed? You have NO idea...)
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To: Wildbill22

Very well said Wildbill.


36 posted on 02/04/2018 3:10:37 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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To: huckfillary

There has been a concerted effort to alter the viewpoint of younger generations into believing that this country isn’t a Republic, but is, instead, a democracy.

Looking at the butt-hurt “safe-space” hoodlums out there, they’ve achieved something of a victory.


37 posted on 02/04/2018 3:19:22 PM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: huckfillary

The globalists aim to get rid of our constitution. Hellary would have advanced that goal. Those who cheer for a constitutional convention are the stupidest people (mostly liberal-tarians, ofcourse) on earth. It’s a deep state set up.


38 posted on 02/04/2018 3:53:30 PM PST by SaraJohnson ( Whites must sue for racism. It's pay day.)
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To: mjp

The only way to eliminate poverty is what communism advocates, but does not attain, by keeping everyone at the same asset level. The problem with that is it destroys the incentive to perform, and the free-riders will dominate until no one has anything. That’s just human nature.

Rather than deny human nature, Marxists opt to change the nature of humans, achieving Utopia. That’s where Soviet Man comes in. He’s had his hard drive reformatted and loaded with Utopian software. Except the Soviets had sixty years of indoctrination without achieving Soviet Man.

They would have been better advised to use a little ju-jitsu and use man’s desire to get stuff (Greed is Good or at least can be harnessed.) to let him make money and take a little of it for governance. But of course, that is capitalism, which didn’t fit Marx’s narrative. Why we teach his idiocy in college illustrates the desire for Utopia by those to whom history is a blank slate and their ever-recycled conceit, “This time it’s different.”


39 posted on 02/04/2018 3:56:14 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: bigbob

America changed right after the Civil War from saying “The United States are” to “The United States is.” The shift from can-do to “where’s mine?” has been lightning fast yet tectonic in nature.


40 posted on 02/04/2018 3:59:44 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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