Posted on 01/22/2018 3:52:32 PM PST by Hadean
Donald Trump's habit of slapping down Mexico is feeding nationalist sentiment in the country's presidential election campaign, prompting contenders to defy him and strengthening the hand of the frontrunner, who is courting the anti-establishment vote.
In the past week, the three top contenders for the July election have all said Mexico will not pay for the wall the U.S. president wants to build on the U.S. southern border. None has made the point more forcefully than Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, a veteran leftist leading the opinion polls.
A victory for Lopez Obrador, who was runner-up in 2006 and 2012, could usher in a more distant and confrontational relationship between the two nations as he promises to lessen Mexico's economic dependence on foreign powers.
That dependence is strongest with the United States: Mexico sends about 80 percent of its exports to its northern neighbor and the United States has traditionally been the source of the bulk of foreign direct investment. Under Trump, however, Mexican views of the United States have soured.
"Without being disrespectful, we're going to put him in his place," Lopez Obrador said of Trump on Thursday in the Gulf of Mexico port of Veracruz, the scene of a notorious national humiliation when U.S. forces occupied it in 1914.
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That’s nice.
Like the US really values the opinion of mexican despots.
Build the wall and kick the illegals out. The US owes mexico absolutely NOTHING!
IF they started causing trouble we could cri[[le them so fast wth firing a shot. Restrict ALL money being sent there and restrict tourism and trade, done, mexico would be broke in a month. We do that AFTER we put our military on the border with shot to kill and leave them were they fall orders.
Cacahole.
I guess they are not sending their best.
Oh goody, which Sh-thead is going to be elected president of this sh-thole!!! LMAO!
We’d fight for 20 years without victory and pay trillions to establish “democracy.”
It would be nice to see MMG as opposed to MMGA (MAGA). It has never been great.
Yet Mexico almost from the beginning has been cursed with poor government and half-crazy leaders. The Mexican public television station, Canal Once (Channel Eleven) had a program on the 11 worst Mexicans in history. I think 8 of them were presidentes.
I really wish them well and hope they can turn the corner, but history tells me they won’t.
My manufacturer moved operations there from CO in '04 and so went my dies.p> Hussein did me in after his coronation and that expenditure is not comming back.
If “nationalism” means that Mexicans will fight back against the incredible corruption and inefficiency of their miserable government, I’m all for it. Mexicans make great immigrants to the US, but most of them would actually rather stay in their own country...and the only thing that makes that impossible is the completely lousy government of that country.
That their biggest cities do not have potable water seems to be something they accept as a given. That their schools are closed half the year by striking teachers’ unions likewise. That their heavily used metro in Mexico City makes NYC’s subway experience look like flying first class...That Mexico has enough oil and resources and a young population to make it a big player but it’s a loser...Mexicans have got to start demanding more.
Lotta gringo retirees in Manzanita and the other resorts. Cheap cost of living and great weather in the winter months. I wonder if Obrador would make it harder for U.S. citizens to own property or reside in country.
When General Winfield Scott occupied Mexico City at the end of the Mexican War, Mexican civic, business and religious leaders met with him and begged him to have the US annex Mexico. Basically they said good government was impossible with Mexican political leadership. He refused and told them he didn’t have the authority to enter into this the of discussions. Scott knew full well that Congress would be totally against it anyway. They then offered him the dictatorship of México, of course he refused that.
General Scott is an unheralded American military genius. People should read up on him.
I think that the CIA should ask the DEA for the locations of the cartel Headquarters and then destroy same with a drone missiles. That should be immediately followed by a ground attack killing all there and leaving te place in ashes.
Then repeat and then repeat as necessary
When mexico complains. Let em bitch
Now if we can only return the 20% of Mexicans living in the US illegally.
Back when I taught my jr high students American history, I told them about ‘Old Fuss and Feathers’. How he served in the U.S. Army in the War of 1812 until the Civil War. I told them how he was too fat to mount a horse by that time and was retired. And they all laughed at him. And then I told them that he devised the strategy that eventually won the war—the Anaconda plan—blockade the Southern ports, divide the Confederacy by controlling the Mississippi River and attacking Richmond. So the old man still had it in his twilight years.
If you like your sh!thole, you can keep your sh!thole......
GOOD! Piss them off enough so they stay home.. that’ll show us.
This I think is the best biography on him.
The name Mexico was coined for the nation around 1921.
Various forms of the name had been used prior to this in Mexico City, and the areas where that name may have come from. I’m not sure anyone knows specifically where the form “Mexico” came from in that there were several different areas where pre “Mexico” variations were used in different parts of what is Mexico today.
Different citations mention various claims of Mexico’s land either as pre-Mexican claims, or even Spanish land claims.
As I understand it, some of that land even included various Caribbean islands.
I think of the early Western United States as owned by the indigenous native Americans, vs pre-Mexican holdings. But then pre-Mexican (prior to the name’s first national use), were themselves just native-Mexicans, although intermingling had somewhat changed the populace to some form of native-American and Spanish mix. I do not recognize a valid claim by Mexico itself to the current land in the U. S. West as necessarily Mexican, or Mexico’s manifest destiny holdings.
Spain had claimed this land, but it never really occupied it. For the most part it remained land owned by the native-Americans until the U. S. and it’s citizens expanded into those regions.
At that time, I think the native-Americans whose tribes were on their traditional lands, would have had the most sound claims to the land.
Why should pre-Mexican native-Americans in Mexico proper get to claim that land vs the on-site native-Americans?
Pre-Mexican nationals didn’t exactly flock into what is known today as the U. S. current west.
Spanish missions popped up, and to manage their cattle holdings, they hired local native-Americans living in the region, not Mexican nationals.
In the year when ‘Mexico’ came into being under that name, it claimed the old Spanish holdings in the west (1821). The U. S. contested and the issue was settled around 1850 at the end of the Mexican/American war. The U. S. won and compensated Mexico for most of the land, along the lines the border is in today. The additional Gadsden Purchase set the reminder of the border as it is today, in New Mexico. If memory serves, I believe the total compensation at the end of the war and the Gadsden Purchase equaled about $65 million. In today’s dollars were talking we talking billions for very sparsely populated land.
You address the currency of Mexico, or at least the pieces of eight. It is interesting that it was used as legal tender in the early United States. I’m not convinced that made pre-Mexico or Mexico into a great nation.
It’s still my take that after Spain, Mexico was never a great nation. I am fascinated by Mexico’s colorful history going back. While intriguing, I’d still not classify it as New World great.
Thanks for the note.
Just think about this and let it sink in. CINCO DE MAYO
Their big holiday is about winning a battle, they lost the war. Oh small point for these losers. They won one battle one time, party ever since, gotta like that.
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