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A US-Turkish Clash in Syria?
Townhall.com ^ | January 19, 2018 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 01/19/2018 7:27:27 AM PST by Kaslin

The war for dominance in the Middle East, following the crushing of ISIS, appears about to commence in Syria -- with NATO allies America and Turkey on opposing sides.

Turkey is moving armor and troops south to Syria's border enclave of Afrin, occupied by Kurds, to drive them out, and then drive the Syrian Kurds out of Manbij further south as well.

Says President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, "We will destroy all terror nests, one by one, in Syria, starting from Afrin and Manbij."

For Erdogan, the Kurdish YPG, the major U.S. ally in Syria, is an arm of the Kurdish PKK in Turkey, which we and the Turks have designated as a terrorist organization.

While the Kurds were our most effective allies against ISIS in Syria, Turkey views them as a mortal peril and intends to deal with that threat.

If Erdogan is serious, a clash with the U.S. is coming, as our Kurdish allies occupy most of Syria's border with Turkey.

Moreover, the U.S. has announced plans to create a 30,000-man Border Security Force of Kurds and Arabs to keep ISIS out of Syria.

Erdogan has branded this BSF a "terror army," and President Bashar Assad of Syria has called BSF members "traitors."

This U.S. plan to create a BSF inside Syria, Damascus declared, "represents a blatant attack on the sovereignty and territorial integrity and unity of Syria, and a flagrant violation of international law."

Does not the Syrian government have a point?

Now that ISIS has been driven out of Raqqa and Syria, by what authority do U.S. forces remain to arm troops to keep the Damascus government from reimposing its authority on its own territory?

Secretary of State Tillerson gave Syria the news Wednesday.

The U.S. troop commitment to Syria, he said, is now open-ended.

Our goals: Guarantee al-Qaida and ISIS do not return and set up sanctuary; cope with rising Iranian influence in Damascus; and pursue the removal of Bashar Assad's ruthless regime.

But who authorized this strategic commitment, of indefinite duration, in Syria, when near two decades in Afghanistan have failed to secure that nation against the return of al-Qaida and ISIS?

Again and again, the American people have said they do not want to be dragged into Syria's civil war. Donald Trump won the presidency on a promise of no more unnecessary wars.

Have the American people been had again?

Will they support a clash with NATO ally Turkey, to keep armed Kurds on Turkey's border, when the Turks regard them as terrorists?

Are we prepared for a shooting war with a Syrian army, backed by Russia, Iran, Hezbollah and Shiite militias from Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, to hold onto a fourth of Syria's territory in alliance with Kurds?

The U.S. coalition in Syria said this week the BSF will be built up "over the next several years" and "be stationed along the borders ... to include portions of the Euphrates river valley and international borders to the east and north."

Remarkable: A U.S.-created border army is going to occupy and control long stretches of Syria's borders with Turkey and Iraq, over Syria's objections. And the U.S. military will stand behind the BSF.

Are the 2,000 U.S. troops in Syria really up to that task, should the Turks decide to cleanse the Syrian border of Kurds, or should the Syrian regime decide to take back territory occupied by the Kurds?

Who sanctioned this commitment to a new army, which, if Syria and its Russian and Iranian allies, and the Turks, do not all back down, risks a major U.S. war with no allies but the Kurds?

As for Syria's Kurds casting their lot with the Americans, one wonders: Did they not observe what happened when their Iraqi cousins, after helping us drive ISIS out of Mosul, were themselves driven out of Kirkuk by the Iraqi army, as their U.S. allies watched?

In the six-year Syrian civil war, which may be about to enter a new phase, America faces a familiar situation.

While our "allies" and adversaries have vital interests there, we do not. The Assads have been in power for the lifetime of most Americans. And we Americans have never shown a desire to fight there.

Assad has a vital interest: preservation of his family regime and the reunification of his country. The Turks have a vital interest in keeping armed Kurds out of their border regions adjacent to their own Kurdish minority, which seeks greater independence.

The Israelis and Saudi royals want the U.S. to keep Iran from securing a land bridge from Tehran to Damascus to Lebanon.

The U.S. War Party wants us to smash Iran and remain in the Middle East forever to assure the hegemony of its favorites.

Have the generals taking us into Syria told the president how and when, if ever, they plan to get us out?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Israel; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afrin; afrincanton; europeanunion; hezbollah; iran; iraq; israel; kirkuk; kurdistan; lebanon; rajo; rajodistrict; receptayyiperdogan; russia; syria; turkey; waronterror

1 posted on 01/19/2018 7:27:27 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

One of my friends spent the weekend trying to convince me that Erdogan is the AntiChrist. I’m like “Do you know how many AntiChrists have come and gone?”


2 posted on 01/19/2018 7:30:04 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: AppyPappy

I remember when Scott Baio was the AC..


3 posted on 01/19/2018 7:47:31 AM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Kaslin

Turkey had a hard time invading the stretch of Northern Syria that it now occupies. There, it was moving into territory already controlled by militias that it had been covertly supplying - even controlling, and the population were relatively sympathetic Sunni Arabs, and even Turkmen.

In Afrin, the population is majority Kurdish. Turkish occupation troops would never have a day of peace. Body bags would continually flow back home, and Erdogan would have the continually unpopular need to send more of the Nation’s sons back in. An invasion of Kurdish Afrin could also inflame the 20% of Turkey’s domestic population who are Kurds, igniting increased domestic terrorism, even civil war.


4 posted on 01/19/2018 7:49:52 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: AppyPappy

Erdogan is famous for saying,”democracy? Ha! Democracy is like a train. When you get to your station you get off!”


5 posted on 01/19/2018 8:03:52 AM PST by conductor john (from jersey)
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To: Kaslin

Obama supported the Islamists now in control of Turkey after they stopped the democratic coup and suppressed dissent.


6 posted on 01/19/2018 8:04:43 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Kaslin

So what are we supposed to do ? Let the Kurds hang out to dry like we do to all those who step up and help us?
Erdogan/Turkey are NATO allies in name only, they openly assisted and supplied ISIS.


7 posted on 01/19/2018 8:13:29 AM PST by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: AppyPappy

Turkey, and especially Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has not been an ally of the United States for some time.

Convinced of his own righteous cause (establishing the Ottoman Empire once again), Erdogan is not likely to listen to reason or be placated by abject submission, at least not until he has established that he and his regime are top dog.

Has he not heeded the fate of Mussolini or Hitler? Did he not see what happened to Gaddafi? Or Morsi?

Simply rewriting the Turkish Constitution and jailing or executing your “enemies” may not be enough.


8 posted on 01/19/2018 8:18:59 AM PST by alloysteel (Sometimes I have to tell myself, it just isn't worth the jail time.)
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To: Kaslin

bkmk


9 posted on 01/19/2018 8:43:59 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Kaslin

“But who authorized this strategic commitment, of indefinite duration, in Syria, “

McCain, Saudi Arabia, France made the decision.


10 posted on 01/19/2018 8:59:19 AM PST by granada
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To: Kaslin
The Turkish leaders are enamored about genocide. Just see how they dealt with the Armenian people and they wish to unleash another orgy of genocide on the Kurds if they could get away with it.

However now that they have American manpads and experience with the latest that the usa lent (cough cough) them for self defense, the Turks will find that they are now an angry purcupine.

11 posted on 01/19/2018 10:03:09 PM PST by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
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