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Who’s Lying, Trump or Durbin?
Lifezette ^ | 1/13/18 | Brendan Kirby

Posted on 01/13/2018 8:01:23 AM PST by markomalley

In the battle of credibility between President Donald Trump and Senate Minority Whip Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) over whether the chief executive referred to certain Third Word countries as “s***holes,” most of the media have sided with the Democrat.

But a pair of Republican senators who were at the White House meeting Thursday, Georgia’s David Perdue and Arkansas’ Tom Cotton, said Friday they do not recall Trump making the remark.

Former Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), said on “The Ingraham Angle” Friday night that Durbin’s account should be viewed with great skepticism.

“It’s the only thing they have,” said Chaffetz, now a Fox News analyst. “Look, there were six members of Congress in that room. There was only one Democrat. And only the Democrat is saying that this happened. And I think it’s highly suspect when Dick Durbin, who has a history of doing this — I mean, he’s used this card on Republicans before and was absolutely wrong.”

Fox News host Laura Ingraham referenced past questionable statements by Durbin.

In October 2013, Durbin wrote in a Facebook post that a House Republican leader treated then-President Barack Obama disrespectfully.

“In a ‘negotiation’ meeting with the president, one GOP House leader told the president: ‘I cannot even stand to look at you,’” Durbin wrote at the time.

The problem, according to no less a source than Obama’s White House spokesman, was that it was untrue.

“I looked into this and spoke with somebody who was in that meeting and it did not happen,” then-press secretary Jay Carney told reporters at the daily briefing.

Carney reiterated the point when asked a second time: “My understanding is that, again, from a participant in the meeting, that that didn’t happen.”

For his part, Trump denied disparaging Haiti during the meeting with lawmakers to negotiate a deal to grant legal status to people enrolled in the soon-to-expire Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

“Never said anything derogatory about Haitians other than Haiti is, obviously, a very poor and troubled country,” Trump tweeted Friday. “Never said ‘take them out.’ Made up by Dems. I have a wonderful relationship with Haitians. Probably should record future meetings — unfortunately, no trust!”

Ingraham also highlighted a 2005 speech on the Senate floor in which Durbin compared U.S. soldiers to Nazis and goons of Khmer Rouge leader Pol Pot.

Democratic strategist Robin Biro told Ingraham that, as a military veteran, he, too, took offense to Durbin’s comments about the military. But he tried to turn the conversation back to the current president.

“Politicians say the darndest things, and Donald Trump is now a politician, and he is one of those people saying the most absurd things,” he said.

But to Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.), it is Cotton and Perdue who are not telling the truth.

“It tells me Sens. Cotton and Perdue are lying,” Lieu told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. “If the president of the United States said the word s***hole 24 hours ago, you would know that. Either the president said it or he didn’t. You don’t say you don’t recall. And that tells me the president actually did say that.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who joined Durbin in presenting the DACA proposal that Trump rejected, issued a statement that did not directly confirm Durbin’s allegation but suggested the president said something offensive.

“Following comments by the president, I said my piece directly to him yesterday,” he stated. “The president and all those attending the meeting know what I said and how I feel. I’ve always believed that America is an idea, not defined by its people but by its ideals.”


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To: markomalley

“*I cannot believe that in the history of the White House and that Oval Office any president has ever spoken the words that I personally heard our president speak yesterday.”

Fake rage Durbin and how easily democrats forget! And I can not believe that in the history of the White House and THAT OVAL OFFICE, that we have knowledge of a POTUS bending a twenty year old intern over THAT desk and placing a cigar into her whatever.......one has to wonder what words Clinton used as he was defiling this woman’s $#!&hole. But it would have been no ones business, right?


21 posted on 01/13/2018 8:27:38 AM PST by Toespi
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To: Toespi
Guess he never heard Nixon or Johnson. Dick must live in cocoon.
22 posted on 01/13/2018 8:33:32 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Toespi

“*I cannot believe that in the history of the White House and that Oval Office any president has ever spoken the words that I personally heard our president speak yesterday.”

Then he never heard the words of LBJ.


23 posted on 01/13/2018 8:35:47 AM PST by JayAr36 (Sliding into Socialism daily.)
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To: bert

“Why do we need to import human excrement when there are so many good folks to allow into the country?”

Why are we letting anybody in when there are over 90 million unemployed Americans?


24 posted on 01/13/2018 8:36:07 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: markomalley

How do we know when Dick Durbin is lying? Answer: Whenever words come out of his mouth.


25 posted on 01/13/2018 8:36:25 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: markomalley

If Durbin had not made this claim publicly, then the offensive term, if it had been uttered, would have remained a private affair, with no embarrassment or offense being known to those countries or their supporters.

Durbin in the one who has caused them to hear this term publicly. And only Durbin.


26 posted on 01/13/2018 8:40:21 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: dsc

The fallacy in your point is that many of those unemployed are in fact unemployable.

I speak with employers and the constant is they can’t find people that are either not druggies or that can be relied on to come to work every day.

The unemployed are Americans but that doesn’t mean they are all
worth a damn


27 posted on 01/13/2018 8:40:50 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: markomalley; flaglady47; Maine Mariner; pax_et_bonum; ExTexasRedhead; Freedom56v2; Bob Ireland; ...
Little Dick Durbin: "I've always believed that America is an idea, NOT DEFINED BY ITS PEOPLE but by its ideals".

Now, THERE'S a statement worth parsing !

Translated, "Screw the people, America's ideal is the Democrat party's agenda of marxism, socialism, liberalism and no-borders globalism".

Not to forget to add "leftist elitism"....of which Little Dick is a shining example.

Leni

28 posted on 01/13/2018 8:45:07 AM PST by MinuteGal (MAGA !!! MAGA !!! MAGA !!!)
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To: markomalley

Well, ... ,TURBIN Durbin of course!


29 posted on 01/13/2018 8:46:44 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: markomalley
Just remember...after the 2012 Election Dirty Harry acknowledged,*with pride*,that the "Romney hasn't paid taxes for 10 years" claim was a lie.And having just done so the interviewer asked if he regretted having made the claim and his response was "Romney didn't win,did he!"

Who's lying? Dick Turbin,the Senior Senator from Cabrini Green.

30 posted on 01/13/2018 8:50:47 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Remember: All Cultures Are Equal!)
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To: markomalley

Everytime I see or hear the name Dick Durbin, I’m reminded of this college humor video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_QhF5HYdS4


31 posted on 01/13/2018 8:57:03 AM PST by PJBankard
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To: markomalley

Eggs-actly. Besides which, you don’t need to leave the US to find s**tholes. I can think of plenty right off the top of my head.


32 posted on 01/13/2018 8:59:16 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: PJBankard

Wrong video in previous link. But still funny. Here is the one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FC85vgHCmM


33 posted on 01/13/2018 8:59:26 AM PST by PJBankard
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To: gibsonguy
There's a pro-Trump radio host in NYC who had the most realistic take on this:

1. Trump did use the term "sh!t-hole" in his meeting (this guy said he assumes Trump said this because he's known Trump for years and it's one of his favorite slang terms in casual conversations, LOL).

2. Durbin fabricated the actual quote to make it sound like Trump was using the term differently than it was originally used.

34 posted on 01/13/2018 8:59:30 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Sounds about right. The Rats and the Rino’s think Trump is over a barrel now because of this so now they will go for a “clean bill of love” for DACA. If this was Bush they would be right but this ain’t Bush.


35 posted on 01/13/2018 9:06:54 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: gibsonguy

I think it’s the other way around. The Democrats figured out that Trump was never going to sign anything remotely close to their DACA bill, so they’re trying to do as much damage to him as he walks away from them.


36 posted on 01/13/2018 9:10:25 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: markomalley

There’s a video of Durbin in 2010 calling for an end to chain migration, which he now says is an offensive term.


37 posted on 01/13/2018 9:13:32 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Alberta's Child

Yeah that’s possible too, and let’s not leave out that POS Flake and his buddies.


38 posted on 01/13/2018 9:15:17 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: markomalley

Dick Turban would not lie.


39 posted on 01/13/2018 9:16:40 AM PST by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: markomalley

They’re both liars, but it seems like something Trump would say. No big deal.


40 posted on 01/13/2018 9:20:04 AM PST by llmc1
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