Skip to comments.Silvio Berlusconi promises flat rate for all Italian taxpayers [23%]
Posted on 01/12/2018 6:28:55 PM PST by Olog-hai
A promise of a flat tax by former prime minister Silvio Berlusconi on Friday sparked sharp reactions from opponents ahead of a general election and head-scratching among economists.
Campaigning ahead of a general election on March 4th at the helm of the conservative Forza Italia movement, Berlusconi said on TV late on Thursday that such a tax would start at the current minimum rate of 23 percent, before being brought down to below 20 percent.
The remarks by Berlusconi who never sought to introduce a flat tax during his three terms as prime minister immediately drew criticism from center-left former prime minister Matteo Renzi, who said he wondered where the money to finance the move would come from. The flat tax at 15 percent would cost 95 billion, and at 20 percent 57 billion, Renzi said on Friday. [ ]
Luigi Marattin, an economist and former Renzi aide, called the flat tax a colossal joke and deeply unfair because it would benefit mostly the wealthy.
Capital Economics analyst Jack Allen, said imposing a flat tax wouldnt be quite that simple, possibly violating the Italian constitution which calls for a progressive tax code.
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I get a kick out the economist saying that a flat tax would be “deeply unfair”.
I had quite a time debating a philosophy professor in college. He insisted that the only fair approach to taxation would be to pick winners and losers and make some choices about who should pay more and who should pay less and under what circumstances some people might qualify for deductions. A sharp progressive schedule would be the only fair method.
I said: How about we treat everyone the same?
He said: Madness! That wouldn’t be fair at all!
Tutti sono tenuti a concorrere alle spese pubbliche in ragione della loro capacità contributiva.
Il sistema tributario è informato a criteri di progressività
Every person shall contribute to public expenditure in accordance with their capability.
The tax system shall be progressive.
It doesn't say how progressive, so how about 23% for under a billion euros and 23.0001% above a billion.
Berlusconi may be yet another imperfect male politician, but I will forever remember him gratefully for calling out Moslems for what they are, after 9/11.
’The flat tax at 15 percent would cost 95 billion, and at 20 percent 57 billion,’ Renzi said on Friday.”
Don’t you love how these politicians only think what it is going to cost government???
I am Italian, if you have questions, please do ask.
One thing to be noted is that our Constitution was written in the immediate aftermath of WW2 and was largely a compromise between the Catholic faction and the Communist faction of the antifascist resistance (Fascist Italy had surrendered in 1943, and we had been occupied by the Germans for two years).
I think the Italian right needs new blood but what are you gonna do!
The 5 Star Movement appears to be the socialists main competition at the moment though, they are leading in the polls with socialist Matteo “Reek” Renzi in 2nd and Silvio and friends in third.
God does not exist. Religion in science is an absurdity, in practice an immorality and in men a disease.All the rhetoric of communists, which Mussolini called himself originally. And one can see a lot of the rhetoric of the USAs Democratic Party in there too.
Fascism establishes the real equality of individuals before the nation the object of the regime in the economic field is to ensure higher social justice for the whole of the Italian people What does social justice mean? It means work guaranteed, fair wages, decent homes, it means the possibility of continuous evolution and improvement. Nor is this enough. It means that the workers must enter more and more intimately into the productive process and share its necessary discipline As the past century was the century of capitalist power, the twentieth century is the century of power and glory of labor.
We go to battle against the plutocratic and reactionary democracies of the west This gigantic struggle is nothing other than a phase in the logical development of our revolution; it is the struggle of peoples that are poor but rich in workers against the exploiters who hold on ferociously to the monopoly off all the riches and all the gold of the earth
When the war is over, in the worlds social revolution that will be followed by a more equitable distribution of the earths riches, due account must be kept of the sacrifices and of the discipline maintained by the Italian workers. The Fascist revolution will make another decisive step to shorten social distances.
Fascism presented itself as opposite to Communism as much as it presented itself opposite to Democracy (”la terza via”). And I specifically have to question the translation of the 1941 quote.
Mussolini originally was a socialist.
We declare war against socialism, not because it is socialism, but because it has opposed nationalism . We intend to be an active minority, attract the proletariat away from the official Socialist party. But if the middle class thinks that we are going to be their lightning rods, they are mistaken.Yet every characteristic of fascism in practice is socialism.
Milan speech, 03/23/1919
Which dovetails nicely with the Patti Lateranensi. Wait, no, the opposite, it completely contradicts your position, being as they effectively recognized Catholicism as the official religion of Italy.
Nice try. Were Catholics active in the fascist government? No. What happened in Italy was what happened with the Orthodox Church in the USSR. Fascism and communism are no different in practice, and not even terribly different in rhetoric.
Please, tell me more about my family history.
Looks like the Five Star gang is the best bet.
Reek really reeks.
Silvio should do the right thing and align/integrate with the Five Star group.
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