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Don't Dance on Bannon's Grave Yet
Townhall.com ^ | Jan 05, 2018 | Mona Charen

Posted on 01/06/2018 4:36:13 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

President Donald Trump's official statement about Steve Bannon -- the lack of exclamation points made it seem as if it might not be 100 percent his own words - is welcome. The president distanced himself from his former aide and included this dig: "We have many great Republican members of Congress and candidates who are very supportive of the Make America Great Again agenda. Like me, they love the United States of America and are helping to finally take our country back and build it up, rather than simply seeking to burn it all down."

The "burn it down" temper was Bannon's calling card. He described himself to Ron Radosh as a "Leninist." Once upon a time, that was the sort of thing Republicans despised, but never mind. He famously boasted of making Breibart the platform for the alt-right, and he seemed to relish chaos and disruption for its own sake. Roy Moore's appeal was purely as an arsonist. If you can believe the new Michael Wolff book (and there are reasons to take it with a few grains of salt), it was Bannon's idea to issue the original travel ban on a Friday evening -- to cause maximum confusion and, in Bannon's words, "so the snowflakes would show up at the airports and riot." As for the other pond scum Bannon has promoted -- Paul Nehlen and Milo Yiannopoulos, among others -- they have a funny habit of sounding like fascists.

Bannon imagined himself as the grand strategist of populism and scourge of the "deep state." His run as Trotsky lasted for 18 months, from August 2016, when Trump named him chief executive to his campaign, until Wednesday, when Bannon was declared a non-entity. He's fortunate that the real Lenin doesn't call the shots here or his fall would have been a bit more unpleasant.

Bannon's exile from Trump's trusted circle is encouraging, but there are many reasons to keep the champagne corked.

First, as Erick Erickson points out, Trump has a long history of anathematizing people only to welcome them back when they flatter him.

Second, to imagine that Bannon's estrangement means the nationalist, protectionist strain of Trumpism is vanquished is dubious. Trump has few consistent beliefs, but he does seem to have been banging the protectionist drum for decades. Even in the 1980s, Trump was convinced that Japan was eating our lunch. Perhaps that won't result in tearing up any actual trade agreements (other than the Trans-Pacific Partnership), but Bannon was hardly the only protectionist voice in the administration. Nor should we imagine that without Bannon's advice, episodes like Charlottesville are less likely. Trump has an itchy Twitter finger for ethnic/racial/sexual controversy, and as long as it jazzes his base, he'll keep it up.

Third, Trump's reasons for dumping Bannon have nothing to do with Bannon's rottenness. It isn't as if Trump woke up yesterday and realized that Bannon's efforts to primary every sitting Republican senator (save Ted Cruz) would be harmful to the party and the country. Nor did he watch Bannon defend a child molester and conclude, "OK, now he's really gone off the deep end." That would have been the moment to say, as he only said yesterday, that when Bannon was fired, "he not only lost his job, he lost his mind." No, even after the abuse accusations against Moore (which Breitbart's editor admitted post hoc were "credible"), Trump took Bannon's advice and endorsed Moore, dragging the Republican National Committee after him.

Trump's anger at Bannon is -- surprise! -- purely personal. He dissed the princess ("dumb as a brick") and the prince ('treasonous").

Even in his fury, President Trump did not so much rebut the accusations (and this is not meant as an endorsement of anything in Wolff's book) as shoot the messenger. Again, the president didn't say, "What an outrageous and false thing to say!" Instead, he took aim at Bannon for not being a winner. "Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating 17 candidates. ... Now that he is on his own, Steve is learning that winning isn't as easy as I make it look." Perhaps not, but Trump fails to grapple with the fact that winning isn't a moral measure. Steve Bannon would not have been less objectionable if Moore had won.

Bannon did claim to be the Svengali responsible for Trump's victory, and that clearly irritated the president, but Bannon's unseemly self-promotion is the very least of his sins. His influence on the conservative movement has been morally putrid. And it was so long before he unburdened himself to Michael Wolff.


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Mona unloads on how rotten Bannon is but she's pretty rotten herself, to Bannon, Moore (where did all of those accusers run off to after the election was over?) and Trump. Her idea of credible is the original NeverTrumper, Erick Erickson. I guess her brand of rotten is ok as far as she's concerned.
1 posted on 01/06/2018 4:36:13 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Why doesn’t Steve Bannon start a website called Bannon.com, and prove to everybody how smart he is?

I’m sure all the best writers and web videographers will flock to it.

Or not.

But at least he won’t be riding to fame and glory on another man’s name, (for once).


2 posted on 01/06/2018 4:39:18 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The fact that Bannon has been exposed as a back-stabbing POS doesn’t mean we have to now love all the never-Trumpers.

We can walk AND chew bubble gum.


3 posted on 01/06/2018 4:40:19 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

+1


4 posted on 01/06/2018 4:41:07 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

What a bunch of snarky, nasty personal attacks, using the language and terms of Progressives.

Sounds like Mona is more of a problem than Bannon.


5 posted on 01/06/2018 4:43:14 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

George Washington had his own Bannon, i.e., the flamboyant General Benedict Arnold.


6 posted on 01/06/2018 4:48:10 AM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Yes, people have a way of weaseling their way back into Trump’s inner circle. But Bannon went after Trump’s kids and Trump himself. I don’t think that’s something the President will be willing to forgive and forget.


7 posted on 01/06/2018 4:48:58 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Maybe a tactic bannon and Trump came up with to allow bannon to do some weeding on the outside. They both know the media are a bunch of knuckleheads and use them accordingly. just a thought


8 posted on 01/06/2018 4:50:15 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Trump is a strategist and follows the teachings of Sun Tsu while Bannon is a full charge create havoc Patton style.

It’s interesting the author compared Bannon to Trotsky, the perpetual revolutionist.


9 posted on 01/06/2018 4:55:32 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Mona Charen is like Jennifer Rubin’s slightly slower little sister.

I like Steve Bannon. He’s been a bad boy and deserves a timeout, but he burns to MAGA, and so do I.

Neither Mona Charen nor any of her neocon friends would spare a dime to save America, and what she has to say is meaningless to me.


10 posted on 01/06/2018 4:56:01 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Mona is a globalist Free Traitor™ hag. She claims their are other protectionist voices in the administration. Really? Who are they? There really are none. They are all globalist GOPe swamp creates like her.


Second, to imagine that Bannon's estrangement means the nationalist, protectionist strain of Trumpism is vanquished is dubious. Trump has few consistent beliefs, but he does seem to have been banging the protectionist drum for decades. Even in the 1980s, Trump was convinced that Japan was eating our lunch. Perhaps that won't result in tearing up any actual trade agreements (other than the Trans-Pacific Partnership), but Bannon was hardly the only protectionist voice in the administration.
11 posted on 01/06/2018 4:57:32 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Travis McGee
I agree it all about economic nationalism and securing our borders. Individual vanities aside it seems Trump is a one man show surrounded by POS globalists.

We need a new party.

12 posted on 01/06/2018 4:59:17 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jim Noble

Great post.


13 posted on 01/06/2018 5:00:10 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ronnie raygun

The problem is that Bannon’s style causes the opposition to build up, organize and fight, thus you always have heavy casualties and often lose.

Trump causes his enemy to underestimate him, think he is bumbling, and the Trump comes on strong strategically and wins.


14 posted on 01/06/2018 5:00:45 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: central_va

Of those influencing Trump, Ivanka and Jarrod, well Bannon was the counterbalance to their views MAGA.


15 posted on 01/06/2018 5:02:54 AM PST by Zenjitsuman (Y)
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To: Zenjitsuman

Silver spooned perfumed princes and princess are out of touch and are clueless.


16 posted on 01/06/2018 5:04:37 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: tired&retired

The Republicans worst nightmare would have been for loose cannon Bannon, (new name for Trump to use), to get a conservative to run as an independent and siphon votes from Trump in 2020.


17 posted on 01/06/2018 5:05:00 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: sauropod

Hold my nose and read.


18 posted on 01/06/2018 5:05:51 AM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I think Trump may survive Bannon.


19 posted on 01/06/2018 5:10:35 AM PST by Leep (My otto erect is walking joist find.)
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To: Leep
I think Trump may survive Bannon.

But will the goals of economic nationalism survive?

20 posted on 01/06/2018 5:11:36 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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