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New England wanted to use all renewable energy… then it got cold
hotair.com ^ | 1/3/2018 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 01/04/2018 5:09:15 AM PST by rktman

During a recent trip to Maine, my wife and I noticed the large number of wind turbines cluttering the peaks of the ridges around the otherwise scenic New England countryside, particularly in Vermont. There really are a lot of them, and that’s the result of an ongoing push to get the region onto renewable energy as much as possible. Vermont in particular has been hammering wind power as the path to cut carbon emissions and make the state truly green in nature. And they’ve achieved an admirable level of success, despite the fact that people living near the wind farms are being driven batty by all the noise and the state is being forced to enact additional restrictions on turbine operation.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: noise; noisepollution; windmills; windpower
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Butt, butt, butt........ There should be plenty of wind this weekend to spin up those turbines.
1 posted on 01/04/2018 5:09:15 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman
Burn wood - the ultimate renewable resource.

(Mmm, sitting near my wood stove watching the wind howl and snow pile up - and um, working, too - honest)

2 posted on 01/04/2018 5:12:57 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: rktman

change the narrative, change the narrative, change the narrative


3 posted on 01/04/2018 5:14:00 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: rktman

L8r


4 posted on 01/04/2018 5:19:59 AM PST by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society. And if the news does not fit)
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should be plenty of wind this weekend to spin up those turbines

The irony of it is, the things have over-limit sensors that will shut them down if the wind speeds get to be "too much".

More wind is not better, where a wind turbine is concerned... they will probably be off line all weekend.

5 posted on 01/04/2018 5:20:51 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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Just curiously, if the turbine is stationary, will wind force like that damage it?


6 posted on 01/04/2018 5:45:38 AM PST by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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To: rktman

Actually if the wind is too high they shut them down. So much for wind power.


7 posted on 01/04/2018 5:46:12 AM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: rktman

The best solution for the nonexistent carbon “problem” is nuclear power.


8 posted on 01/04/2018 5:46:42 AM PST by Socon-Econ
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To: Socon-Econ

The leftist logic will be to burn coal to create electricity to spin the turbines.


9 posted on 01/04/2018 5:50:54 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Delusional - Adjective, Describes a Democrat or member of the MSM)
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To: rktman

An economist noted that each one of us enjoys with industry the economy of one man with 200 slaves in the past... think each man has 200 human turbines for himself. In other words, we would have to have for a city of 5 million about 20x5 or 100 million of those things if we count 10 human slave turbines per wind turbine in output.


10 posted on 01/04/2018 5:53:15 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: Psalm 73

My gas forced air heater is on it’s last season. I’m thinking of replacing with a wood pellet heater. Not sure of cost competitiveness though.

CC


11 posted on 01/04/2018 5:55:18 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (It don't matter if your heart is in the right place, if at the same time your head is up your a$$)
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Just curiously, if the turbine is stationary, will wind force like that damage it?

Nope. It comes down to the engineering design. If wind turbines are spinning in too high a wind, above 55 mph, that can cause damage to the comparatively delicate rotor. When the blades are locked in one position, the rotor is safe, and the tower and blades are strong enough up to handle winds up to about 150 mph.

12 posted on 01/04/2018 5:57:14 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Psalm 73
Burn wood - the ultimate renewable resource.

A rather misleading oversimplification. Ask how much wood do you have to burn to keep a house warm in a VT winter. Answer average of 4.8 - 5.4 cords per winter. And this is hardwood not pine. Next question is how many trees does it take to provide that much wood? A cord is 128 cu ft so you need 614 - 691 cu ft of wood per winter. How many acres and how much time does it take to produce this abount of wood? Answer varies depending on where you are, but I found that for Nebraska an acre produces 22 - 24 cu ft a wood a year max. So you need at least between 25 and 31 acres of forested woodlot to heat one house with wood.

BUT this isn't the end of it; trees don't fell themselves and cut themselves into convenient lengths and then transport themselves to your stove. You need fuel and equipment (you aren't going to haul 5 cords of wood in your little VW bug - think big pickup at $35,000 - $50,000) to harvest the timber and a fair amount of time to manage and harvest the timber for fuel as well, so heating with wood is a complicated expensive and resource intensive process not "mmm"

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13 posted on 01/04/2018 6:00:28 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: rktman

Puts a whole new spin on “let the bastards freeze in the dark.” Perhaps they can just send out more of their liberal politicians to warm them up with more hot air.


14 posted on 01/04/2018 6:03:06 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: grobdriver
Guess I should have "sarc" tagged it. I do know they get shut down if it gets too "breezy". 👹🌬
15 posted on 01/04/2018 6:03:21 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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the carbon footprint of vermont maple syrup is prohibitive.


16 posted on 01/04/2018 6:06:35 AM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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Have they discovered that wind generators stop generating power when the temperature plummets? Texans discovered that in the February 2011 blizzard, forcing power companies to buy power from Mexico…and were charged triple the regular price by our nasty neighbor to the south.


17 posted on 01/04/2018 6:10:13 AM PST by txrefugee
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Very stupid. Our industrial economy depends on the energy found in oil. There is NOTHING else that contains as much energy, in such concentration, at such a low cost.

If the oil runs out, we’re screwed, and solar/wind power won’t warm up our cold a$$es.


18 posted on 01/04/2018 6:12:25 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of hate-America savages.)
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To: SMARTY
will wind force like that damage it?

Yes.

The turbines have speed limits beyond which they will feather the blades (turn then edge-on into the wind) to stop rotation.

19 posted on 01/04/2018 6:15:25 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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Snow and ice have damaged wind turbines in the past.
They cover solar panels, so there will be absolutely zero renewable energy being produced. Now what!

Gas, coal, nuclear.

All of the above.


20 posted on 01/04/2018 6:17:10 AM PST by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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