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State's pushback on toll roads rankles Houston-area leaders
The Houston Chronicle ^ | December 22, 2017 | Dug Begley

Posted on 12/29/2017 7:41:54 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Texas lawmakers have gone from championing to criticizing toll roads, a shift that some Houston-area leaders worry has gone too far and could limit coming projects.

"Without toll roads and that funding, I don't know what we are going to do," said Montgomery County Judge Craig Doyal, citing the need for new roadways in rapidly growing parts of the Houston area.

The concern, voiced at a Dec. 15 meeting of the Houston-Galveston Area Council's Transportation Policy Council - the region's transportation planning group - was shared in response to decisions by the Texas Transportation Commission. A day earlier, the commission removed two projects in the Dallas and Austin areas from the state's 10-year transportation plan because proposed expansions of Interstates 635 and 35 rely on a mix of state funding and toll revenues.

State lawmakers, in securing voter approval for two highway spending plans, had pledged not to use any of the money to advance toll roads. Both projects veered a little too close to mixing that state money with toll plans, drawing the ire of Gov. Greg Abbott and Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick.

The transportation commissioners yielded to the concerns of state officials, despite some Dallas- and Austin-area supporters defending the projects as smart uses of tax dollars with toll components aimed at encouraging carpool and transit use.

Even in striking the I-35 and I-635 expansions from coming plans, transportation commissioners noted the $3 billion in additional money expected for highways annually is not enough.

"Those other projects are not going away," Transportation Commissioner Jeff Austin said. "They will get more expensive as we wait."

No Houston-area projects were affected by the changes to the state's Unified Transportation Plan. In fact, the region's most sought-after project, the massive redesign of Interstates 45 and 69 and Texas 288 in downtown Houston, was included in the updated plan.

It is the next round of projects, including the continuation of the I-45 redesign plans, that has Houston-area officials concerned. A number of projects, including the I-45 lanes north of downtown, could use managed lanes to add capacity to freeways while curtailing vehicle use. That mix of adding lanes to freeways but incorporating more carpool and tolling use has been popular in Houston, even as some groan at the notion of more tolling.

State lawmakers, Houston officials said, may have cut off that option for financing freeway expansion.

"The thinking that I believe has caught us all by surprise is managed lanes," said Alan Clark, manager of transportation and air quality programs for H-GAC. "Even though the proposal would not use state funds for the managed lanes, but for freeway improvements, it means even if that project is next door to (the toll lanes), you can't use state money."

Local elected officials are intensely committed to their own toll road efforts.

"Toll roads are our business," said Fort Bend County Commissioner James Patterson.

Though the Harris County Toll Road Authority, controlled by county commissioners, is the largest toll operator in the Houston area, it has been joined by many contemporaries in the past decade. Toll roads have opened or are planned in Fort Bend, Montgomery and Brazoria counties. TxDOT also built the Grand Parkway in Harris County, while the Metropolitan Transit Authority oversees HOT lanes along I-45, I-69 and U.S. 290.

Workers currently are adding a tollway in the center of Texas 288 from the Brazoria County line to downtown Houston. Work will start soon on the next phase of the Grand Parkway east, from I-69 near Kingwood to I-10.

Montgomery County and TxDOT worked closely to add toll lanes and expand Texas 249 to relieve traffic between the Houston area and College Station.

"Without that project, it would have been 10 years before TxDOT could start that road," Doyal said, "and that is just unacceptable."

Critics, however, say the state and local officials should live within their means like any household budget. Voters approved more money for transportation under the belief they would see improved freeways, not new toll lanes, said Don Dixon, who often attends state transportation meetings and challenges officials to reject toll roads. He called reliance on tolls "elitist" and counterproductive to encouraging business growth.

"The more money you pay, the faster ride you get, I don't like that," Dixon said. "We need to have a system in Texas that everybody can use for a low cost."

The challenge, state officials acknowledge, is whether that can be accomplished via any single method of paying for highways.

"We are indifferent to the sources of funding streams, but we are not indifferent to the need," Transportation Commission Chairman Bruce Bugg said.

Local officials countered that the need - and the state's inability to get many needed projects under construction - is why they have been so willing to embrace tolls, both in Houston and in suburban communities, to help people and freight move.

Harris County Precinct 3 Commissioner Steve Radack said county officials are about to spend $1 billion for a new Sam Houston Tollway bridge across the Houston Ship Channel. If the states takes aim at toll projects, Radack said, perhaps they can build the new bridge.

"I am sure they have enough money somewhere," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: construction; expresslanes; funding; grandparkway; hctra; highways; hotlanes; houston; i10; i45; i69; infrastructure; prop1; prop7; roads; spending; texas; tollroads; transportation; txdot

1 posted on 12/29/2017 7:41:55 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Texans dont like paying twice for their roads,


2 posted on 12/29/2017 7:44:11 PM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How many of these “leaders” were receiving kickbacks?


3 posted on 12/29/2017 7:46:35 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Houston, you do not want toll roads. The Austin area is rife with them and I’ve never heard a good word about them. They snarl up existing roads, are never on schedule, always over-budget, and don’t generate the expected revenues.


4 posted on 12/29/2017 7:58:01 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Their politicians just want to make Texas New Jersey again.


5 posted on 12/29/2017 7:59:00 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Army Air Corps

My thought, too.


6 posted on 12/29/2017 7:59:37 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A lot of States get along without toll roads.


7 posted on 12/29/2017 8:16:17 PM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Army Air Corps

How many leaders and voters are from California?

That’s what these a-holes do, ruin their state and move on.....


8 posted on 12/29/2017 9:11:13 PM PST by DanielRedfoot (Po Dunk)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

These leaders could try quitting pissing away money on crap the government has no business doing, and they would have plenty of money for roads.


9 posted on 12/29/2017 9:37:37 PM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It is the next round of projects, including the continuation of the I-45 redesign plans, that has Houston-area officials concerned. A number of projects, including the I-45 lanes north of downtown, could use managed lanes to add capacity to freeways while curtailing vehicle use.

Managed lanes are the newest goal of the anti-transportation planners.

10 posted on 12/29/2017 9:38:42 PM PST by gogeo
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To: BradyLS

“Houston, you do not want toll roads.”

Never been to Houston?


11 posted on 12/29/2017 10:07:49 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Might I suggest, stop welfare, stop paying illegal immigrants to live in the state and Texans can pretty build what ever they want without digging into their own pockets.


12 posted on 12/29/2017 10:27:01 PM PST by Herakles (Diversity is a globalist scam for power!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

fta... “The more money you pay, the faster ride you get, I don’t like that,” Dixon said. “We need to have a system in Texas that everybody can use for a low cost.”
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That I agree with completely! Why is there this obsession with getting from point A to point B faster?

Big rigs pull reefer trailers so food is frozen/cold and doesn’t spoil. ...People traveling through dense population centers just need to figure the travel time to allow for traffic.

Bureaucrats in the TXDOT keep pushing the toll road crap and that should be investigated to determine who is benefiting from them. ...It’s not the taxpayers!


13 posted on 12/30/2017 4:23:00 AM PST by octex
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

fta... “The more money you pay, the faster ride you get, I don’t like that,” Dixon said. “We need to have a system in Texas that everybody can use for a low cost.”
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That I agree with completely! Why is there this obsession with getting from point A to point B faster?

Big rigs pull reefer trailers so food is frozen/cold and doesn’t spoil. ...People traveling through dense population centers just need to figure the travel time to allow for traffic.

Bureaucrats in the TXDOT keep pushing the toll road crap and that should be investigated to determine who is benefiting from them. ...It’s not the taxpayers!


14 posted on 12/30/2017 4:23:44 AM PST by octex
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Harris County (Houston) has a very cost effective and efficient system of combined Managed Lanes (toll lanes) and “free lanes”. Those who oppose the system are generally “aginners” who do not use toll lanes for a variety of reasons.

Commuting 30 miles in 45 minutes at a cost of $3.50 is very COST effective versus spending 1.5 to 2 hours for the same trip.

My opinions come from designing toll roads and freeways for TxDOT in the Houston region for 30 years.


15 posted on 12/30/2017 5:37:06 AM PST by texican01
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To: BradyLS

Houston has had toll roads longer than Austin has had them.


16 posted on 12/30/2017 6:36:27 AM PST by TexanByBirth (Free Republic: where they may agree with the message, but they love to shoot the messenger!)
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To: TexanByBirth; TexasGator

Thank you for the correction! :-)

I don’t know why anyone would consider more of them if they’ve ever had any.


17 posted on 12/30/2017 7:04:51 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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