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The UK's Consequential Embrace of Secularism
Townhall.com ^ | December 28, 2017 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 12/28/2017 6:32:53 AM PST by Kaslin

ANGLESEY, Wales -- The UK Daily Mail has again published a story about a subject that has become a recurring theme this time of year. No, not Christmas, but rather drunkenness, though the holiday is used as its primary excuse. Pictures accompanying the story show young people collapsing in gutters and vomiting on the sidewalks. It is not a pretty sight.

More than 100 years after the 1904 Welsh revival and more than 60 years after American evangelist Billy Graham preached at a London Crusade, which lasted 12 weeks, and at its height brought 120,000 people to Wembley Stadium in the rain, registering thousands of converts, the United Kingdom is a spiritual shadow of its former self.

The BBC recently announced its intension to expand religion coverage on the theory that more information about faith might stem growing anti-Semitism and create understanding of various beliefs. Currently only one religion program, "Songs of Praise" is regularly shown on BBC.

The announcement brought a stinging rebuke from London Times columnist David Aaronovitch: "Given that for the first time since the Black Death a majority of Britons are not actually religious, this new emphasis seems perverse."

A considerable amount of mocking follows: "Maybe there'll be a sitcom called 'The End is Nigh,' in which a family of Jehovah's Witnesses moves next door to a family of Seventh Day Adventists and evangelical mayhem ensues. Or the corporation will buy the rights to 'Saudi Arabian Big Brother,' where the all-male housemates compete to see which of them is the most pious. That one really exists, by the way."

Aaronovitch might examine the difference between the cultural influences of past revivals and the British approach to faith today, which has moved from indifference to open hostility in many cases and produced faithless acts, like public drunkenness.

During the Welsh revival and for at least two decades after, drunkenness was cut in half. As the late minister and chronicler of Christian revivals, J. Edwin Orr has written, "The movement went like a tidal wave over Wales, in five months there being a hundred thousand people converted throughout the country."

Here is where secularists must be challenged if they think faith has no role in modern life. Again, Orr paints the picture: "The social impact was astounding. For example, judges were presented with white gloves, not a case to try; no robberies, no burglaries, no rapes, no murders, and no embezzlements, nothing. District councils held emergency meetings to discuss what to do with the police now that they were unemployed. In one place the sergeant of police was sent for and asked, 'What do you do with your time?' He replied, 'Before the revival, we had two main jobs, to prevent crime and to control crowds, as at football games. Since the revival started there is practically no crime. So we just go with the crowds.'

"A councilor asked, 'What does that mean?' The sergeant replied, 'You know where the crowds are. They are packing out the churches.' 'But how does that affect the police?' He was told, 'We have seventeen police in our station, but we have three quartets, and if any church wants a quartet to sing, they simply call the police station'."

It turns out faith -- at least faith that does not embrace violence to achieve its goals -- promotes positive cultural values better than politicians do. As in America, politicians here are being outed and ousted over claims of sexual harassment and consumption of pornography on their government computers. Perhaps acknowledgement of a Higher Authority in their lives might have prevented them from embracing baser instincts.

If the BBC is rediscovering faith, that might possibly lead to a renewed interest in the subject among the public and who knows, another revival? God knows the UK (and America) could use one.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: religion; unitedkingdom

1 posted on 12/28/2017 6:32:54 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

There is only one religion getting converts in the UK. Islam. Those fools have no idea what they are in for. Unfortunately, I have family and friends there, that are religious. I fear for them.


2 posted on 12/28/2017 6:39:13 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative
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To: Kaslin

I see the London Times writer is mocking God.

I tried that once. It ended bad.

Real bad.

It won’t happen again.

And I wouldn’t recommend it.


3 posted on 12/28/2017 6:39:17 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Kaslin

If anything, I was raised as a Unitarian Universalist, which essentially left me feeling “Why bother?” Because I don’t remember anything really affirmative about it, and I haven’t attended a service since I was a kid.

That said, I do see a strong cultural influence of (most) religious faith that enables society to function in a manner that respects everyone and allows people to flourish. People seem to have a biological need to believe, and when they turn that belief to human institutions and leaders, then toxic results happen—societal decay, dictatorships, drug abuse, crime.

Clearly, not all faiths are equal... witness the many Islamic sects that promote violence.


4 posted on 12/28/2017 6:49:44 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

What will they do for alcohol when sharia is the law of the land? Or perhaps their new citizens will allow them to stay in a perpetual drunken state?


5 posted on 12/28/2017 7:03:53 AM PST by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: The Deplorable Miss Lemon

Many Islamic countries forbid the use of any alcohol.

When I lived in Europe, I noticed that many Muslim immigrants were alcoholics. They could not control themselves when alcohol was freely available.


6 posted on 12/28/2017 7:29:34 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

That’s interesting, I wasn’t sure if immigrants did it too but the stories of the Saudi royal family and alcohol are legendary. It would be amazing irony if alcohol defeats radical islam?


7 posted on 12/28/2017 7:53:38 AM PST by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: Kaslin
All cultures are equal!

The announcement brought a stinging rebuke from London Times columnist David Aaronovitch: "Given that for the first time since the Black Death a majority of Britons are not actually religious, this new emphasis seems perverse."

Imagine this penetrating numerical analysis applied to Islam, homosexuality, or newspaper readership.

8 posted on 12/28/2017 10:57:26 AM PST by Lonely Bull ("When he is being rude or mean it drives people _away_ from his confession and _towards_ yours.")
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