Watch: CBS News Finds Three Families Who Will Be Getting Serious Relief Thanks To Trump's Tax Cuts

Townhall.com ^ | December 24, 2017 | Matt Vespa

[moviefan8]

Yes it is bad because is not a 25% reduction.

I am being sarcastic.

[moviefan8]

Any reduction in taxes should be good.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

I’d like to see some realistic families and how the new tax bill effects them.

A single woman and $40,000, a working family with $150,00 income and another couple with $300,000, are not totally representative of working Americans, and I see nothing about Social Security included as income.

Let’s find a family of 4 in the No. Virginia area that makes between $40-60,000.

A family of 4 making less than $40,000 in Cleveland or Chicago; a family of 4 making around $40 - 50,000 in New Orleans; the same for Houston, Texas, Phoenix, Az, Denver, Colorado, Seattle, Washington, Detroit, Mich.

Screw the Northeast. They aren’t worth helping. They created their own hell. Now let them live in it.

You can play with the income ranges, but I want to start at the lower income earnings levels for a family of 4 (artificially but also somewhat realistically at $40,000 thru $60,000).

I would have them both as home owners (with mortgage) and renters. Some would have car payments, others student loans. Some might be receiving government assistance re food/school lunches, medical care etc.

Then you would have the single parent family of 2 (parent and child), then 2 kids, 3 kids, etc. This is more like a significant part of the American working population, esp. in the inner cities, farming areas, etc.

I have no idea how much I will get in a tax return or have to pay (my income has not gone up in years, I work only 3/4 time due to budgeting issues, have only my social security, and a small dividends income from a family inheritance.

Any tax relieve would be nice but I’m not complaining about paying my federal taxes, or even my state taxes. It is the damned, ever mounting local property taxes (house/car) that is killing me. The Democrats raise the assessment rates in order to claim that they are not raising the tax rates (but they openly did both this year).

That is where political action is needed by conservatives and moderate, sane Democrats. We need to stop paying so much in taxes for illegals in our school system, jails, on public assistance.

It is time that our own local residents get some tax relief. We also support our local charities for our fellow neighbors and strangers. After that,then we can help take care of other non-citizens. But financial sanity in the county budget is the first step where I live.

So, thanks Mr. President for trying to help hardworking, legal and loyal Americans, FIRST.

Then, as the economy picks up, we can help others, as we always have.

[Twink]

I stopped reading your screed at “Screw the Northeast. They aren’t worth helping. They created their own hell. Now let them live in it.” So, screw you too and whatever area you live in and whatever issues you and your family are dealing with at this time. FU. Nice, isn’t it?

[Eleutheria5]

They’re going to get disappeared!

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

Hey Twink. I remember when Connecticut was a safe, beautiful state to visit (I had relatives in Bridgeport and Trumbull). The last time we were in Bridgeport, many years ago, it looked like a run-down 2nd rate city.

A work colleague of mine used to work for the Navy in key naval facilities and contractor-support companies, and he says that both Connecticut and Rhode Island have gone to hell (unless you are very rich) in the key cities, and have lost major economic manufacturing plants and related companies.

Just look at the insane politicians both states (as well as much of Massachusetts and most of Vermont, NJ and a good part of New York have elected in the past 20 years. Even a once staunch conservative state like New Hampshire has the rich liberal spoil-over crowds now and they are wrecking the politics.

I used to write for the Manchester Union Leader and knew its editor Bill Loeb. Back then, the state was in good financial shape, the politicians were at least sane, and the red tinge of Marxism was no-where to be found.

Vermont is a beautiful state but it was taken over in the early 1970’s in a well laid out plan by John Froines, Lee Webb, Dave Dellinger and later Marxist clowns like Bernie Sanders). You can find some good articles about this in the NY Times in the 1970’s.

Only Maine escaped the large Marxist/socialist influx but it too has had a lot of problems.

I live in Virginia, a state that is being systematically ruined by the liberals/Democrats due to their stupidity, reckless spending, and catering to illegals instead of the working legal residents.

We have two blithering idiots as Senators, Kaine and Warner. The only place they should be is in an insane asylum. I’ve been around politics/Congress, and journalism since the late 60’s and believe me, I’ve never seen the Democrats/liberals/progressives (communists in training), attempt to destroy our culture, our history, our political system, our courts and our schools in the way they have in the past 8 years.

They took their game-plans right out of Lenin/Stalin and Alinsky, and have been very successful at their deconstructing America. Much of New England is a symptom of their success.

[SkyPilot]

Show me your tax statements.

Ah yes, every argument from your side came down to this. Share financial information with me on the forum.

Would you say something like that to me if we had just met and were talking face-to-face? Then why would you ask such a thing here?

And yes ResponseAbility - if the only solution from your side to people who struggling to pay for college, save for retirement, pay their mortgage, pay their medical bills, and all the rest is "Well, then MOVE!" - yes that is a life destroying solution you folks are screaming at people.

Who the heck are you to tell people to do that?

And shame on the GOPe, who thinks the best way to get back at Democrat governments is burn the rest of us.

Merry Christmas.

[SkyPilot]

You know how many middle class families should have had their taxes raised so that Google, Facebook, and Apple could get billions in tax cuts?

Zero, that's how many.

Forward!

Merry Christmas.

[SkyPilot]

I stopped reading your screed at “Screw the Northeast. They aren’t worth helping. They created their own hell. Now let them live in it.” So, screw you too and whatever area you live in and whatever issues you and your family are dealing with at this time. FU. Nice, isn’t it?

Yup - and these are the folks who claim to be "conservative."

Merry Christmas Twink.