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The great rethink of ethanol
Washington Examiner ^ | Dec 19, 2017 | Wayne Allard

Posted on 12/19/2017 8:58:28 AM PST by george76

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To: redgolum

For ruminating animals more sugar means more problems.

They all do better on low energy straight grass hays as the place they get the vast majority of their daily calories from.


61 posted on 12/19/2017 11:23:07 AM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: headstamp 2

Thanks for the Ethanol Shield tip.

It comes highly rated and the price is great!


62 posted on 12/19/2017 11:41:27 AM PST by Randy Larsen (Trump IS MY president and I'm damn proud of him!)
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To: NorthMountain

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I fully support the conversion of corn to ethanol. I further support the aging of said ethanol in charred oak barrels ...
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Don’t forget: past X gallons, you’ll need permission from govt. Govt doesn’t like Free Men being 1) self-sufficient 2) out from under its thumb 3) out of range of the long-arm of confiscation vis a vie taxes.

Can’t have personal responsibility and self-determination, y’know, ya might blind someone w/ bad hooch. Only govt gets away w/ trampling Life, Rights, Freedoms and Liberty w/o repercussions...or reason (beyond gaining more power and ‘authority’).

Something to do re: ‘Commerce’ *spit*


63 posted on 12/19/2017 12:20:33 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Pride in the USA

Good news!


64 posted on 12/19/2017 1:15:32 PM PST by lonevoice (diagonally parked in a parallel universe)
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To: cymbeline
I’m against the use of ethanol as a fuel but jeez, where are the complaints from the ordinary guy?

Well...

It cost me $300 in towing and service to my 2004 Sonata because the ethanol attracted moisture froze my throttle body.

My motorcycle is carburetor-ated. The ethanol damages it and gums it up. Ethanol contaminated gas affects the performance (noticeably) in a negative way.

I have to drive 25 miles to the nearest station that sells ethanol free gas and fill gas cans I keep for my bike.

Pure gas increases my mileage in my cars by at least 5%. When I am able to run it regularly I have more power and pickup. With pure gas my bike goes from about 48-50 mpg to 53-55 mpg as well as running better. Ethanol in gas should be determined by the market, not fascists in DC forcing us to buy it, and then having to buy additives to (try and) deal with the damage and performance issues. I should have a choice.

65 posted on 12/19/2017 2:49:31 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: woodbutcher1963

[http://www.starbrite.com/startron

Star Tron fuel stabilizer.]

I used that for many years prior to using Ethanol Shield in my outboard and did well with it. IMHO Ethanol Shield is better. It also lowers the combustion temp of ethanol additive fuels. Read the research at their site.

There’s an expensive thing to repair with ethanol damage. (grin)


66 posted on 12/19/2017 5:58:43 PM PST by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

[When I put my small engines(Stihl trimmers and chainsaw) away for extended periods(like over the winter) I will run the Truefuel 2 cycle in them BEFORE I hang them up in the shed.]

excellent strategy.


67 posted on 12/19/2017 5:59:40 PM PST by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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To: george76

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Get the booze out of the tank!
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68 posted on 12/19/2017 6:01:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: woodbutcher1963

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>> “ As others have stated ethanol will gel if it sits in the bowl of your carburetor for an extended period.” <<

Please explain your chemistry!
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69 posted on 12/19/2017 6:03:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: A Navy Vet

There MIB is a fantastic additive despite the hokey name.

I saved a 1 year old genset with it. I foolishly used Stabil in the gas because its all I had at the time.

Like clockwork the main jet was gummed up. EPA carb so that meant full replacement unserviceable.

Followed directions on MIB to the letter. Dump it into a near empty tank, ran unit to get it into the carb fully, shut down and sit overnight. Unit started right up in the AM and ran without the choke having to be full on all the time.

Since then I’ve used it on countless crappy running chainsaws, small engines. Interesting stuff.


70 posted on 12/19/2017 6:08:55 PM PST by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Are you saying that in your area you can’t buy premium no-ethanol gasoline at the pump, or from a distributor?

All the stations in my town have either a separate pump or a separate pushbutton for non-ethanol fuel.

On the latter pumps, with the separate button, you will still get a hoseful of ethanol backwash, which the yard crews and woodcutters hate.

I have bought premium no-ethanol for my tanks here at home from a distributor for several years. It’s more expensive...but the last time I lucked out getting 600 gallons just before the price jumped.


71 posted on 12/19/2017 6:18:20 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: txrefugee

Trump has always been a corn ethanol backer. Ted Cruz questioned ethanol and still won the Iowa Caucuses. However, Ted Cruz is the only leading politician to question ethanol subsidies.


72 posted on 12/19/2017 6:55:03 PM PST by iowamark
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To: NorthMountain

” I have two 2-cycle engines. I have had trouble with the fuel lines rotting in both of them.”

Hmm. My chainsaw got a broken fuel line where it went into the tank. Maybe that was rot. My weed eater is acting up. I got replacement fuel lines and a carb rebuild kit for it.

I read up on ethanol-infused fuel. Looks like it was a bad idea. It was done to reduce our dependency on foreign oil.


73 posted on 12/20/2017 4:27:15 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: Fightin Whitey

“Are you saying that in your area you can’t buy premium no-ethanol gasoline at the pump, or from a distributor?”

Yes, there are no regular gas stations within 10-20 miles of where I live and commute in southern NH that sell NON ethanol fuel 89-94 octane. The only gas station that sells non ethanol through the pump is Haffners in Hudson, NH that sell the 110 octane leaded racing fuel.

There are some gas stations in the central part of NH that cater to the small boat/marina customers that sell non ethanol gasoline. However, they are an hour drive away.

I have also checked with the local airport here in Nashua for non ethanol aviation fuel.


74 posted on 12/20/2017 6:04:03 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: cymbeline
Hmm. My chainsaw got a broken fuel line where it went into the tank. Maybe that was rot.

In mine, the whole fuel line disintegrated.

75 posted on 12/20/2017 6:06:37 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Please explain your chemistry!”

I am not a chemist. However, I can tell you from experience that I have pulled the carburetor off of my John Deere Kohler engine, removed the bowl and found gel in the bowl. I have also found water droplets in there.


76 posted on 12/20/2017 6:08:18 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

If there were ethanol. The water wouldn”t have separated into droplets.


77 posted on 12/20/2017 6:11:34 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: headstamp 2

This strategy came from my local Stihl dealer. Prior to that I would run the machine dry and then put it away. He stated that could still allow small portions of ethanol gasoline left in the carb jet holes. This can then gel and plug those jet holes.

The problem with Stihl products is that you can not buy a $25 carburetor for them on internet like you can for Echo and other equipment. You have to buy Stihl parts from a Stihl dealer.


78 posted on 12/20/2017 6:18:05 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Mr. Lucky

That is exactly what I found. Droplets of water sitting in the bowl when I removed it.


79 posted on 12/20/2017 6:20:02 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

If you found droplets of water, it wasn’t because of ethanol. Ethanol and water form a solution; petroleum and water don’t.


80 posted on 12/20/2017 6:29:30 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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