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Turkey hits back, saying Israel 'massacres thousands of Palestinians'
Times of Israel ^ | December 10, 2017 | Raphael Ahren

Posted on 12/15/2017 11:18:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: Eleutheria5; silverleaf

It means that the late King Hussein was a mightly slow learner.


41 posted on 12/16/2017 9:19:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: faithhopecharity

The media is riddled through with atheist a-holes and other sociopaths, y’know, like the Islamofascists.


42 posted on 12/16/2017 9:23:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: BlackbirdSST; sauropod; ByteMercenary; roadcat; ROCKLOBSTER

The Saudi NEOM project is the carrot, but until the EU stops financing and fostering terrorism, those bone-idle bums aren’t going anywhere.

The outcome is likely to be Israel within its current borders plus the so-called West Bank, and eventually Gaza which is the old abode of the Philistines.

Israelis regardless of political stripe now know that the only outcome that will temporarily slake the thirst of their enemies is genocide of the Jews, and they ain’t goin’ that route.


43 posted on 12/16/2017 9:26:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv
THe IAF may be the best in the world

They have to be. The alternative is too terrible to think about.

44 posted on 12/16/2017 10:31:08 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Long Jon No Silver
Ishtar was the Babylonian goddess of war and fertility. Eggs as a fertility symbol. I think its fair to say that Xmas and Easter have some syncretistic practices of pagans fused with Christian observances. Choc eggs, tree and tinsel etc etc

Yes, think I could agree with that. OK, I am not sure what military jargon you don’t get, so I will run through much of it. This may seem basic, but since I don’t know what you know, here goes. USAF=US Air Force. USA= US Army USMC= US Marine Corps. USN= US Navy. Incirlik=US/Turkish Air Base, in Adana, Turkey. TDY=Temporary duty. Laughlin = Laughlin AFB, in Del Rio, Texas. UPT= Undergraduate Pilot training. PCS=permanent change of station. Longer than the maximum TDY of 180 days. My son is a USAF 2nd Lt, soon heading to UPT.
Right now, I think I am just a few hours north of you. Are there anymore terms you don’t understand? 😀

45 posted on 12/16/2017 10:57:03 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: SunkenCiv

“THe IAF may be the best in the world, in the history of the world...”

US Navy fliers are better. IAF pilots are not trained for carrier landings, because we have no carriers.


46 posted on 12/16/2017 11:00:00 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

They’re better at landings, sure, but the good stuff happens in the air. :^)


47 posted on 12/16/2017 11:44:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Carrier landings, however, are the hardest aerial stunt there is. People die if they make one small mistake. And Navy pilots do them daily.


48 posted on 12/16/2017 11:50:23 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

I’ve heard that the pilots themselves say, anyone who’s not a little scared before attempting to land on a carrier doesn’t know what he’s doing. :^) NASA’s use of experienced pilots was a great idea (from Eisenhower, btw) and some of the best were of navy background (Al Shepard, Jr, Jim Lovell, and cool headed Neil Armstrong; the Mercury 7 was made up of 2 naval, 2 marine, and 3 air force, one of the AF never flew his Mercury mission), but none of those NASA pilots in the first three programs was some kind of washout, they were all great. When they started going up in pairs, the assignments tended to mix up the service backgrounds, presumably deliberately (Buzz, AF, went on G 12 with Lovell, for instance, and went to the Moon with Neil).


49 posted on 12/17/2017 12:05:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes a lot of bad apples in the mass media barrel. Same for academia


50 posted on 12/17/2017 12:08:24 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians aren’t born, they’re excreted.” - Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

/bingo


51 posted on 12/17/2017 12:54:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Mark17

Cheers Mark. Thanx for the acronym info. I knew some of it. A few hours north of Oz? Pacific islands?
Planes have had a huge impact in the steps leading up to and after Israels’ establishment. Some believe (I do) that Isaiah 31.5 could be a prophecy about aircraft saving Jerusalem (and thus Israel itself)
‘As birds flying, so will the LORD of hosts defend Jerusalem; defending also he will deliver it; and passing over he will preserve it.’
The bottom line for the arogant turk Erdogan, is don’t mess with the Israel Defense Forces.


52 posted on 12/17/2017 1:00:14 AM PST by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Long Jon No Silver

IAF especially. During the “war of attrition” between Egypt and Israel from 1967-73, IAF fly-boys regularly ate Egyptian pilots for breakfast on their way to targets in Egyptian territory. It got so bad that they started seating Soviet pilots instead, and even then the Israelis gave as good as they got, if not better. Johnson was afraid of it escalating into all-out war with Russia.

My own observations from the ground are that while the IAF can’t do carrier landings, they formation fly so tight you’d think there were cables and bars holding the planes in position.


53 posted on 12/17/2017 2:25:13 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Long Jon No Silver
A few hours north of Oz? Pacific islands?

Davao City. 😊 As far as Isaiah 31:5, protecting Jerusalem and all of Israel? It could be aircraft, Iron Dome, AAA, MLRS, artillery. Or, it could simply be that God sends His angels to protect Israel. I wonder if this is the incident, where it takes them 7 months to buty the dead? (Ezekiel 39:12) I think many in the world, will realize that divine intervention saved Israel from the forces of evil.
There was a Christian, former IDF Officer, that came to Davao City some time ago, but I can’t remember his name. I know when he left here, he was headed for Kansas, Nebraska, Minnesota and California.

54 posted on 12/17/2017 5:15:29 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

Don’t envy you being in the tropics Mark. I live just north of Sydney. We have heatwave conditions this week. Prob a chance of 120 fahrenheit in parts of western Sydney for a few days. But it’s dry heat only at those temps and low humidity thank goodness.

I know some Jewish people aren’t too thrilled about some Christians thoughts on end times. But I figure Israel needs all the friends it can get and there are many friends in the Evangelical movement.
Eleutheria you are in Israel yes?


55 posted on 12/17/2017 1:44:44 PM PST by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Long Jon No Silver
I spent two weeks in Sydney. All I paid for, was the hotel. I think the hotel I stayed at, was called the Australia. It was where General MacArthur stayed after he left the Philippines. Every Filipino in the universe knows who said people of the Philippines, I shall return. They have NEVER forgotten that.
The opera house was still under construction when I was their. I remember Pinch Gut, Fort Denizon in the Harbor. It’s 84 Fahrenheit here today, and you are expecting 120? I was in Fairfield, California once, when it was 114 F. I don’t care if it’s a dry heat. That is HOT
Well, I believe God will accomplish His sovereign will over Jerusalem, whether anyone likes it or not. I think many Jews will finally recognize Jesus of Nazareth, for who He claimed to be from day one. Maybe then, so will many Muslims. I know a couple ex Muslims here. They are great evangelicals now. 😁😁
56 posted on 12/17/2017 4:56:44 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

Well I probably over stated the 120 temps for Sydney a little bit. More like maybe 110 for a couple of days out in the western suburban area of Sydney. Up my way on the coast we get a sea breeze that keeps things ok. But some parts of Australia are really sizzling at the moment. A few 116 in places way inland today and prob bit higher next few days in them parts. The northern monsoon is late for tropical places again this year and that lack of cloud allows some serious heat to build up.

Back to the Turks and Erdogan. Part of it is the loss of face they suffered at the hands of Allenby etc in ww1. They were the dominant power for centuries in the middle East. But they never developed the area that is Israel now. It was a backwater.They lorded it over Jew and Arab alike so it is a bit rich of them to feel so tender about the Arab colonists who got shown the door when the rightful tenants came home.


57 posted on 12/17/2017 10:33:17 PM PST by Long Jon No Silver
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