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FCC votes to kill net neutrality rules
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 12/14/17 | Melissa Quinn

Posted on 12/14/2017 10:36:00 AM PST by ColdOne

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To: ColdOne; Gamecock; All

Obama and Soros, 2 fantatical marxists are for net neutrality. NY Times etc are for it also. Trump has just saved the Internet and Freedom !

Soros the marxist is behind this “net neutrality” :
http://ijr.com/2015/03/270555-soros-groups-dropped-82-million-push-net-neutrality-interesting-thing-happened-placeholder/

On February 26, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) passed 400 pages worth of new internet regulations, the details of which were released Friday.

It’s not a secret that left-leaning groups have advocated for “Net Neutrality” rules, but the amount of money thrown at the cause, and the sources, might be surprising.

The Media Research Center found that the Open Society Foundation, run by George Soros, donated over $82 million to “pro net-neutrality groups” between 2000 and 2013.

Between Open Society and The Ford Foundation, close to $200 million was doled out to push for net neutrality.
Image Credit: Media Research Center
Media Research Center

MRC also reported that the Ford and Open Society Foundations joined together February 11 for an event called Net Gain, intended:

‘“… to launch a major new partnership’ to deal with ‘significant challenges at the intersection of the Internet and philanthropy.”’

At the event, The Ford Foundation’s President, Darren Walker, said:

“The Internet rights are civil rights. And like so many other civil rights, they need to be secured, safeguarded, protected and celebrated.”

Walker then lauded FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler’s plan to regulate the internet as a public utility:

“… the direct consequence of the tireless efforts of many of you in this room, the organization you represent, to persuade, and to challenge, to evangelize” the principles behind net neutrality.”

One of the Soros-funded groups, Free Press, heavily lobbied the FCC and, according to the Daily Caller, “their pro net-neutrality arguments” were cited 40 times in the 400 pages of regulations.

Free Press’s co-founder, college professor Robert McChesney, has advocated for government subsidized journalism:

“In the end, there is no real answer but to remove brick by brick the capitalist system itself, rebuilding the entire society on socialist principles,” McChesney wrote in a 2009 essay.

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To have people on here defend this marxist tyranny these communists call “net neutrality “
is ridiculous. And the Ford foundation is a communist group. Also the NY times , wash post et al are for net neutrality (all the marxists are).There was nothing wrong with the Internet for the first
few decades before the marxist Obama (and Soros) imposed their 400 pages of “fixes” to a non-existent problem
in 2015. Now many even one here a conservative forum are calling for obama’s initial 400 pages of soros government
regulations to stay. ridiculous
. If you supporters of this bs want socialism so badly why don’t you just move to Venezuela now
and join in the starvation and long lines for non-existent toilet paper.

It is my opinion that freedom last as long as Trump is president and pai is protecting the internet. not much longer after that. Obama was adding even more government regulations to all areas of the economy . This and this net neutrality will return once Trump and pai aren’t there any more.


41 posted on 12/14/2017 10:58:59 AM PST by Democrat_media (Mueller doing coup vs Trump. Obama was adding 97,000 pages of government regulations /year)
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To: ColdOne

every little bit helps and this is good news. They should gut everything Obama implemented and touched.


42 posted on 12/14/2017 10:59:25 AM PST by plain talk
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To: AAABEST

Amazing how many people on twitter right now don’t understand things like ‘market forces’.


43 posted on 12/14/2017 10:59:26 AM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: TMA62

Miniluv: Ministry of Love; the most frightening ministry, responsible for law and order
Another layer of irony: Oceania had no rules or laws. Similarly this was pretty much Obama `WeSaySo’ stuff: “We can do anything. There is nothing you can do without our review.”
Look at the NSA, CIA, FBI now, all thoroughly corrupted.


44 posted on 12/14/2017 11:01:55 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all white armed conservatives)
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To: Texas Fossil

‘Net neutrality as written, does not not mean what the name implies.’

But surely that’s not also true of the Affordable Healthcare Act...is it?

Jk.


45 posted on 12/14/2017 11:02:51 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Gamecock

It heavily favors the content providers over those who actually built and operate the internet.

It makes the carriers mere regulated utilities like your local phone provider, or power provider...limited to eight cents on the dollar in profit. And FORCED to sell their services to their competitors at cost.

That’s what will kill the internet as we know it. The march of broadband will stop except as forced by government regulation and subsidy. Additional leaps beyond the 40gbs backbone (to 100gbs and beyond) will be stillborn.

The internet will be frozen in it’s current state. All the while the content providers are free to make as much money as they can even though the people who built the internet have no reason to invest in further expansion.

When the great bandwidth crunch comes, OR the complete burn down of all available IP addresses under IPv4, the content providers will then scream for further regulation to force the carriers to invest without return.

Net Neutrality means Marxist Internet.

And I’ve been in the network business for over 40 years.


46 posted on 12/14/2017 11:03:43 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Biggirl

“They should be very HAPPY. It gives the internet FREEDOM.”

It gives providers freedom.

I can see both sides to this. The potential for a provider charging you based on what “tier” of web access you want, (not speed, but actual sites you visit), is not appealing.

I’ve been around the tech culture for a long time. So long that it won’t be long before I hang up my patch cables. I think I still know the pulse of the tech community. They hate this, and there will be real consequences to it.


47 posted on 12/14/2017 11:04:29 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Red Badger

Says the man with five names, just so you don’t get him mixed up with someone else.


48 posted on 12/14/2017 11:05:25 AM PST by Crucial
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To: ColdOne

Is a main concern that the Obama reg made broadband a public utility under Title II of the Communications Act? It would seem to me that net neutrality was all about putting internet delivery in the realm of highly regulate public utilities to give the government more tools to control it. As the article says, this repeal put it back where it was under Title I as an information service which is considered a “light touch” from a regulatory stand point.


49 posted on 12/14/2017 11:05:30 AM PST by Pete
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To: ColdOne

Doesn’t matter anyhow.

The major ISP’s already throttle bandwith to certain IP addresses.

Google.
Amazon.
Spectrum.
Comcast.

Pick one. All of them do it. They can, because they built and own the infrastructure that your internet runs on.

These are not public utilities. If they want to censor you and your website, for any reason, or no reason at all, they can, and will.


50 posted on 12/14/2017 11:05:56 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: ColdOne

Net neutrality is a socialist view of the net. It is a utility defined as X that costs the same for everyone.

Revoking net neutrality restores a capitalist view of the net, where different tiers of experience exist at different costs.

Internet providers, aka the folks who built the internet, have no incentive to make the internet faster with new technologies with net neutrality rules. Hence, like many places elsewhere on earth, we’ll eventually become uncapacitized for our needs. We’ll have the net equivilent of brown outs. With the rules lifted, you’ll see immediate new investment, faster speeds, and yes fast lane pricing that pays for that investment.


51 posted on 12/14/2017 11:07:07 AM PST by Lemon Curry
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To: Fantasywriter

YEP


52 posted on 12/14/2017 11:07:22 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: ColdOne

Net Neutrality made the net not neutral. Affordable Healthcare Act made Healthcare unaffordable. Tolerance Policies are intolerant. That is what a corrupt government produces. Corrupt regulations.


53 posted on 12/14/2017 11:08:15 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: ColdOne; All
Thank you for referencing that article ColdOne. As usual, please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Regarding the FCC’s decision, note that the Founding States made the first numbered clauses in the Constitution, Sections 1-3 of Article I, to clarify that all federal legislative powers are vested only in the elected members of Congress, not in the executive or judicial branches, or in non-elected bureaucrats running constitutionally undefined federal agencies like the EPA and FCC.

So not only are deep state federal lawmakers protecting their voting records by unconstitutionally front-ending legislative powers with non-elected bureaucrats, but the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to Congress the specific power to do what the FCC is doing imo.

Are we having fun yet?

Corrections, insights welcome.

Patriots now need to be making sure that there are plenty of state sovereignty-respecting, Trump-supporting patriot candidates on the 2018 primary ballots, and pink-slip career lawmakers by sending patriot candidate lawmakers to D.C. on election day.

And until the ill-conceived 17A is repealed, patriot candidates need to win elections by a large enough margin to compensate for possible deep state ballot box fraud and associated MSM scare tactics.

54 posted on 12/14/2017 11:08:25 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: brownsfan

2018 will be a wonderful year.


55 posted on 12/14/2017 11:08:37 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5W)
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To: AAABEST

Yes, straight out of Orwell’s 1984.


56 posted on 12/14/2017 11:09:07 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Biggirl

“2018 will be a wonderful year.”

I hope you’re right. I sincerely doubt it though.


57 posted on 12/14/2017 11:11:04 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: csvset

Thanks for highlighting that paragraph about the Russian Collusion. My liberal Nanny Pelosi slobbering sycophant congressman just tweeted how he got hundreds of constituent calls about net neutrality. I just tweeted back those stats and asked for an investigation of Russian Collusion.

In his typical fashion, it will be ignored.


58 posted on 12/14/2017 11:11:15 AM PST by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: ColdOne

..... over the objection of Democrats in Congress

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Those 7 words alone tell me this is probably a good thing .... plus, it’s one more Obama era item done away with by Trump. :-)


59 posted on 12/14/2017 11:11:18 AM PST by Qiviut (Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP)
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To: brownsfan

“I can see both sides to this. The potential for a provider charging you based on what “tier” of web access you want, (not speed, but actual sites you visit), is not appealing.”

You don’t want the opportunity to buy video from a content provider that pays extra so that your video can arrive pixel free? Or buy your telephone service over your existing broadband with 911 location services AND free of garble?

Do you want to force the people who invested trillions of dollars in fiber and high-speed switching a routing relegated to 8 cents on the dollar profit margin, while content providers make 100%, regulation free?

Do you know what you want from internet services?


60 posted on 12/14/2017 11:12:31 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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