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Propaganda Works: Majority of Americans Now Believe the GOP Bill Will Raise Their Taxes.
Townhall.com ^ | December 13, 2017 | Guy Benson

Posted on 12/13/2017 12:25:07 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Mariner

We are by no means wealthy and all the numbers I’ve ran says ours go up. I’d call us healthy middle class.


81 posted on 12/13/2017 2:18:03 PM PST by sheana
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Good luck with that!

We are so effed.

In a State like Florida, where Trump only won by 100,000 votes, the combination of a couple of hundred thousand Puerto Ricans moving here and the PISSED OFF middle class families that itemize their deductions and will be seeing their taxable income SKYROCKET ensures that he doesn’t get re elected in 2020.

By the way, my goddamned medical deductible is still $6,800 up from $500 before Obamacare, the GOP hasn’t done dick about that, but they have figured out a way to make pay their corrupt degenerate criminal asses another $12,000 a year.

I want the same goddamned deductions that corporations can take, he didn’t run on this because if he did, HE WOULDN’T HAVE WON IN THE FIRST PLACE.


82 posted on 12/13/2017 2:19:55 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Paladin2

Well that’s a helpful suggestion...NOT!


83 posted on 12/13/2017 2:20:29 PM PST by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know Who holds the future!)
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To: Mariner
A $400k home is easily affordable on $140k.

And paying $19,000 per year on interest alone? OK, if you say so.......You're certainly in a higher income bracket than I ever was and definitely in a higher taxed state than where I live..........

84 posted on 12/13/2017 2:22:41 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: Hot Tabasco

If you can’t even figure out mortgage interest deductions you really ought not to be commenting on threads like this.

TRUMP DIDN’T CAMPAIGN ON TAKING AWAY THE STATE AND LOCAL INCOME TAX DEDUCTION FROM W-2 WORKERS.

THIS IS THE BIGGEST SCAM IN AMERICAN HISTORY


85 posted on 12/13/2017 2:29:27 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Rome2000
TRUMP DIDN’T CAMPAIGN ON TAKING AWAY THE STATE AND LOCAL INCOME TAX DEDUCTION FROM W-2 WORKERS.

I'm totally aware of that knucklehead.........Sheesh!

86 posted on 12/13/2017 2:37:47 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: Rome2000

You might want to direct your comment to Mariner..........


87 posted on 12/13/2017 2:38:20 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: Herodes

“WE do not know for a certainty what’s in it”

Is it your contention that both the House and Senate bills will not be the basis for the “reform”?

That they are deceiving us and they will bring something completely different out of conference?


88 posted on 12/13/2017 2:49:03 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: CatOwner

The bill makes me choose either to take state and local taxes or property tax deductions. It doubles the standard deduction as well. I am in NJ. All in all it lowers my tax bill overall which I am happy about. I do not like that it raises taxes for some. Simple solution would have to been to slash rates from top to bottom and corp tax rates as well. A one page bill.


89 posted on 12/13/2017 2:56:29 PM PST by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Your taxable income is only one data point.

What are the marginal tax brackets? What are the thresholds?

Your taxable income could go up, and your tax liability still go down.


90 posted on 12/13/2017 3:06:37 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/hj3e8cKZWiY)
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To: Kaslin

Darn. I just finished telling all my clients to defer income into next year because of lower tax rates. Guess I better retract my advice.


91 posted on 12/13/2017 3:09:58 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

And my clients are in CT.


92 posted on 12/13/2017 3:11:21 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Arthur McGowan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3613329/posts?page=5#5


93 posted on 12/13/2017 3:16:06 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: Kaslin

A majority of the people in the US think they pay income taxes. They don’t. They pay FICA and Medicare.

But, you cannot explain stuff to people who also think they need to pay HR block to do their 1040EZ.


94 posted on 12/13/2017 3:20:18 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: Rome2000

Hey, watch your filthy mouth.


95 posted on 12/13/2017 3:26:48 PM PST by TexasCruzin (Trump is the man. #TrumpPence16)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Where do YOU live and are you still employed or retired?

California. We retired in the middle of 2017, so we'll be fully retired next year. One on social security. The other with a modest pension (not government, teacher, union, etc.). My estimates are comparing the current tax rates with the proposed tax plans without taking a deduction for state income or sales tax. As it is, that deduction would be less than $1,000.

96 posted on 12/13/2017 3:28:40 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: Hot Tabasco

If the Feds want to tax interest income inflow, ALL paid out Interest should be deductible as it’s NOT YOUR INCOME!

It’s someone else’s Income.

Simple really.


97 posted on 12/13/2017 3:33:35 PM PST by Paladin2 (There is no credible evidence that 0sama is a NBC.)
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To: Kaslin

Tbats a lie.. My middle income taxes will increase per the Senate documents available. So, how about telling the truth as the documents show. Middle Amerca is paying for all the spending... and there is a lot of it, in the bill. Unless you have several children. Facts only, using source documents.


98 posted on 12/13/2017 3:35:14 PM PST by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: Vermont Lt
"...they need to pay HR block to do their 1040EZ."

Isn't that where EITC "refunds" come from?

99 posted on 12/13/2017 3:35:52 PM PST by Paladin2 (There is no credible evidence that 0sama is a NBC.)
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To: Mariner

“Hey a$$hole.”

Hey D-Bag, you many want to wait until you see the final product and then you can whine about how your taxes go up.

You seem to be a sage and knowing things others don’t.

ASSUMing...

You appear quite premature in your melodrama.


100 posted on 12/13/2017 3:37:22 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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