Posted on 11/24/2017 11:17:42 AM PST by Kaslin
At the very last minute, two sailors did not board the Argentinian submarine that has been lost in the South Atlantic for nine days now.
For different reasons, Humberto Vilte and Adrián Rothlisberger did not board the submarine with the 44 other crew members, according to O Globo, a Brazilian newspaper.
Vilte was allowed to skip the mission after he learned that his mother had been hospitalized, O Globo reported. Known by his friends as "Beto," Vilte was not only given permission to leave, but the navy also paid for his trip back home, according to Argentinian newspaper Clarín.
Since the submarine’s disappearance, Vilte changed his profile picture to an image of the ARA San Juan shield with a black ribbon, Clarín reported.
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There’s a Youtube video of Art Bell about the mother of a sailor who called his son not to board his ship multiple times. The son was pissed bec he knows he will get in trouble with the Navy but eventually had to make an excuse for his mother. The Destroyer eventually had an accident at the location near where his bunk was and some sailors were killed.
Still a very slim hope for the Sub but in the case of these two, when it isn’t your time, it isn’t your time.
It’s my nature to be suspicious of everything and everyone in unexplained events like this.
I would go through the background of everyone who had any connection at all with the sub or the crew.
Down to the smallest detail.
The stories of people who missed doom would fill volumes. Last minute cancellations on the Titanic and Hindenburg, for instance.
Waylon Jennings losing a coin flip.
The Indianapolis was torpedoed after delivering the A-bombs (Think of the people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki who did not miss that train.)
Fate is fickle.
As well as last minute substitutions.
Cayce Jones was a substitute engineer.
The girl who missed the train out of Johnston to fetch her calfskin gloves. And her servant.
Fate is fickle.
“Fate is fickle.”
I’ve often thought of the woman who was killed in the Ted Williams tunnel when a piece of ceiling dropped onto her car.
A mere second earlier or later could have saved her.
.
Survivors guilt ?
Gahan Wilson and the good ship Revenge.
Casey Jones, if you please. Edgar Cayce was a “cultic” “faith” healer who reportedly achieved some “miraculous” healings via very unorthodox methods. I think the jury may still be out as to the REAL story.
Jonathan Luther Jones, from Cayce, Kentucky, hence his nickname. He converted to Catholicism when he married. I agree, that the standard spelling of his nickname should be Casey.
Did Rothlisberger’s dad escape the Third Reich on the rat line?
Missed flights to Pearl Harbor, missed Titanic boardings, Jackie Chan on 9/11 (scheduiled to be filming when the planes hit WTC) — every tragedy has this sort of story.
I hope these fortunate sailors will contemplate why they have been spared and act accordingly. My whole life has been narrowly averting disaster so I do the best I can while constantly thanking God and my guardian angels.
I would imagine so..
Outwardly they will probably be thankful etc but would imagine it will tear them up for awhile...
Something about shipboard crews especially on a Sub where each is completely dependent on one another.
Hard to live down the old ‘Why them and not me’ - the movies ‘wore it out’ but there is a camaraderie there that is had to put in words YET, those that lived in the situation understand it.
I had always figured I should have been on the Thresher.
I had picked that type Boat, was in a critical rate and was an E5 at the time. But I ‘blew my head up’ in the escape tank and got washed out.
I was standing watch in the Pentagon when the names started coming in and there were 7 or 8 classmates of mine - I didn’t ‘know’ them but it is still an eerie feeling.
That was 2 very close calls I ‘survived’... Probably wont be so ‘lucky’ next time... Sometimes it isn’t ‘bad’ getting old....
I’m in agreement. I’ve had some investigative experience, and learned the “smallest detail” often is overlooked in such coincidences as withe the two sailors.
I went over the Sunshine Skyway Bridge on a Greyhound bus just a few days before a freighter hit the bridge, causing a collapse that sent several vehicles into the water. Including a Greyhound bus.
I worked with a guy at NUSC who was scheduled to go on Thresher’s last underway, but was bumped by a VIP at the last minute. That was it for him. He would visit a sub at the pier but he would never get underway.
What is the typical number of sailors missing a submarine mission in the Argentine navy? Is this some strange coincidence, or are these just the two who usually miss?
I can sort of relate to that. Wife and I have been vacationing off and in sanibel/captiva islands since the mid-70’s. We usually drive straight south on I-75 but in July of ‘79 we took the route over the Skyway just to see it. I remember being uncomfortable on it because that thing was so high up and seemed pretty spindly to me. When we went back to san/cap in 1980 it wasn’t there anymore. It killed 35 people
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