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To: rellimpank

But you will not hear them want to discuss the intransigent causes of such violence: the culture of violence in rap music, drug and alcohol abuse, fatherless children, and other related things helping to perpetuate the black on black violent crime problem.

The authors are also (likely in an inadvertent manner) contradicting a popular argument from the Canadian Coalition for Gun Control up here in that stricter gun control laws accompanied by lower homicide rates make Canada distinct from the United States. When in reality, taking out black on black violent crime likely results in U.S. states that immediately border Canada (like Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, and Washington) having such rates that have very little or no difference to the neighbouring Canadian province(s).


13 posted on 11/19/2017 5:59:45 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: OttawaFreeper

—yes—and furthermore, if one takes out the black homicide figures from the overall U.S. homicide rate , we “gun nutty “ U.S. residents overall have homicide rates comparable to any number of the European paradises with “ strict” gun control-—


17 posted on 11/19/2017 6:10:30 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Canada is about 3% black.


54 posted on 11/19/2017 6:58:00 AM PST by brianr10
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To: OttawaFreeper

There’s a statistic I read recently, I forget the exact numbers but it was something like 98% of all gun crime happens in 2% of the nations counties. In Michigan, 90% of all gun crime comes from ONE zip code (in Detroit).

One naturally assumes the gun crime numbers are evenly spread across the USA but it just isn’t the case. When I point this out to foreigners they’re shocked. They find it hard to believe that I’ve not, personally, witnessed gun crime. I grew up in England, so when I say that the USA is less violent than Europe they think I’m nuts (but I have credibility). Then I point to how football (soccer) games have to be policed (outside USA), even today. In many places, especially England, home and away fans require absolute segregation, otherwise they’d tear each other apart after every goal - there’s a wall of security between them. They find it shocking when I tell them I can go to ANY sport here and sit wherever I please and cheer as I like, nothing will happen. It’s a very interesting cultural indicator that is easy to overlook.


81 posted on 11/19/2017 11:49:11 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: OttawaFreeper

“the culture of violence in rap music”

We might as well face it: “black community” is synonymous with “culture of violence.”

There may be some blacks somewhere who have not been steeped in the black culture of violence, but there aren’t enough of them to invalidate the rule.


85 posted on 11/19/2017 3:51:46 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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