AL Gov. Kay Ivey Still Supports Moore because of the Supreme Court

Townhall.com ^ | November 18, 2017 | Tomothy Meads

[fortheDeclaration]

No one is conceding guilt, it just isn’t relevant to anything.

[Kaslin]

[Thumper1960]

You know, it really doesn't matter. The die was cast long ago. Agree with the way things are or not, Judge Moore should certainly be an Alabama senator.

This argument is millennia old. Human civilization has largely been a patriarchal system. Men have nearly always wielded power and influence over women. The cynic can say that men have ruled the roost, nothing wrong with that, men are simply the stronger sex. The stronger of the strong typically rise to the top.

It's curiously satisfying to watch the Libs go nuts, as usual. They always put politics above ethics. They have protected sexual predators for many decades, simply because the predator had agreeable ;political stances. They've ignored the wolves in their fold and made excuses. Now, with alleged wolves within their opponent's camps, they've discovered virtue, morality, integrity, ethics? I laugh at their angst. I am giddy watching them twist and wriggle and make rationalization of their acceptance of those friendly wolves within their own flocks of sheep.

[unlearner]

“The choice is between a creep and someone who thinks its OK to kill babies.”

At least you are pro-life, though naive about politics.

I see you’ve been with Free Republic for less than 3 years. I’m wondering if that is because of a change in politics, Obama pushed you to the right, you grew up, or some other explanation for where you’ve been for the prior decade of leftwing devastation.

How would you feel to be asked for an interview on your local TV news about whether you’ve quit sexually assaulting underage girls before or after you joined Free Republic two-and-a-half years ago?

The reality is that people rarely change from a sexual fixation. If Moore really did anything remotely similar to what he’s been accused of, it would have showed up in how he’s conducted himself since.

I find it literally impossible to believe that a sexual predator would be so devoted to God and the Bible as to be willing to lose his job over it. That’s what Moore did.

Some politicians wrap themselves in the mantle of religion to get votes and get ahead. Moore did the opposite.

At most, Moore dated and attempted to date younger, but of legal age, girls.

You’ve got people in both parties who hate Moore because of his views on homosexuality, Islam, immigration, and many other things. And these people are willing to do anything to destroy him.

So I don’t know why any conservative has trouble believing his side of the story.

If this is all it takes to destroy the political career of any conservative, then you can expect it to happen over and over from now on. Don’t fall for this nonsense.

Without ironclad proof, nothing that happened 40 years ago is worthy of any consideration. If a person truly believes someone was a sexual predator, they should scrutinize his current life to see if there is any more recent evidence.

The evidence that Bill Clinton, the Podestas, and many other leftwing power players have sexually abused children is overwhelming. Bill Clinton took many trips with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein to his lolita island. When someone is a sex abuser, if you don’t have evidence to convict, you just need to track their activities, because they will do it again.

People are afraid to expose rich and powerful people like Bill Clinton. They are not afraid of a judge who has gotten kicked out of his position twice: once for controversially insisting on displaying a large ten commandments display, and once for instructing other judges to ignore the Supreme Court’s ruling on homosexual marriage.

None of the allegations against him are credible.

If you or any other conservative is willing to take what has been put forward against Moore for anything more than slander and libel, you deserve to have it done to you to teach you a lesson.

[Political Junkie Too]

At this point you either have to believe that dozens upon dozens of regular people are liars...

So now we're up to "dozens upon dozens?"

-PJ

[unlearner]

“The most heinous of these allegations comes from Beverly Nelson, who says Roy Moore raped her when she was 16.”

No such allegations were made.The claim was he got aggressive and she thought he was going to try and rape her, so she jumped out of his car.

I have not heard a single allegation of non-consensual sex or even consensual sex outside of marriage.

Yes, there have been nasty allegations mixed with innuendo. But not this. How can someone write an article like this and get so far off the mark?

This whole thing IS about sex. It is about the homosexual agenda promoters who do not want a man like Moore to be a senator.

[Nateman]

There is only one case where physical edvidence has been produced and that is the yearbook. It’s clearly a fraud. If you can find one liar, you can find plenty more.

[Yosemitest]

I believe JUDGE Roy Moore also.

Read this:

IT’S A FAKE!
Analyst Says Judge Roy Moore Signature Inside Gloria Allred Accuser’s Yearbook Was FORGED



The sevens in 1977 to the right of “Christmas,” are very different from the sevens in the date (12-22-77) above “Old Hickory House.”

“Look at the two versions of the number “7,” tweeted Wictor.

“”12-22-77” and “Olde Hickory House” were written by a different person,” he added.

Next, [Thomas] Wictor points out “the “R” and “y” in “Roy,”” are not written the same way.

The inflection of the “Y” is more pronounced in Moore’ signature as Chief Justice. The “R” is noticeably longer in the signature of Chief Justice, as well.

“During his legal career, Judge Moore became the first full-time Deputy District Attorney in Etowah County, Alabama, and served in this position from 1977 until 1982. In 1984, Judge Moore undertook private practice of law in Gadsden, Alabama,” states Moore’s bio on his campaign website.

“The accuser to this day calls him the District Attorney. He was NEVER District attorney. He was DEPUTY DA. DDA,” says Wictor. ... "

Check out this little fact from TheCipher

Interesting revelation about the signature in the yearbook and where it probably came from.
Turns out Moore was the judge who ruled against Nelson in her divorce case and the signature is exactly how it was on his ruling - explains the D.A. ( which Nelson has ).
Nelson also said she never had contact with him since the "incident"and failed to mention he was the judge in her divorce case.

Roy Moore Attorney Demands Gloria Allred Release Original Yearbook, Contends it’s a ‘Fraud’


" ... "D.A." (District Attorney) initials after Moore’s signature, was recognized by Moore as the initials that his then-assistant, Deborah Adams , used to sign documents. ... "

From "TigerClaws" :

" ... But (exhibit 2) click on the image in the link.
You can clearly see two different color ink pens were used.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/930205088299257859

Here's that image and a link to its ORIGINAL source :

And here’s one more source:

Live Stream: Moore Campaign Holding Press Conference

“ … Furthermore, after Moore's signature are the initials "D.A.," which Nelson and her attorney say represented were written by Moore because he was district attorney at the time.
But Moore was an assistant district attorney, Jauregui said,
And Moore can't recall ever signing his name with the letters "D.A." after it.
But he had seen it before, Jauregui said, when he was on the bench.

His assistant stamped his signature on papers and then put "D.A." on them, Jauregui said.
That's exactly how the signature appears on the divorce decree that Moore signed, he added. … ”

That's the THIRD Spelling of his assistant.

WHICH ONE IS CORRECT ?

Check out this little fact from TheCipher

Interesting revelation about the signature in the yearbook and where it probably came from.
Turns out Moore was the judge who ruled against Nelson in her divorce case and the signature is exactly how it was on his ruling - explains the D.A. ( which Nelson has ).
Nelson also said she never had contact with him since the "incident"and failed to mention he was the judge in her divorce case.

Roy Moore Attorney Demands Gloria Allred Release Original Yearbook, Contends it’s a ‘Fraud’


" ... "D.A." (District Attorney) initials after Moore’s signature, was recognized by Moore as the initials that his then-assistant, Deborah Adams , used to sign documents. ... "

Here’s one more source:

Embattled GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore's attorney implies his signature in a girl's high school yearbook was a forgery

“ … "Judge Moore looked at that D.A. after that signature," Jauregui said.
“No, he wasn't, he was the assistant district attorney."
He added that Moore's assistant when he was presiding over Nelson's divorce proceedings was named Delver Adams,
who typically stamped his initials on court filings. … ”

And here’s a link to a DIFFERENT SPELLING of that name:

Roy Moore Campaign to Gloria Allred: Release the Evidence to Determine Whether There is Fraud

" … “Judge Moore says he can’t remember ever signing his name with DA after it.
But he had seen it before.
You know where he had seen it ?
When he was on the bench, his assistant whose initials are capital D. A. Delbra Adams would stamp his signature on a document and put capital D. A.
That’s exactly how this signature appears on the divorce decree that Judge Moore signed dismissing the divorce action of Beverly Nelson.” … "

The more I search those different spellings of the assistant's name, the more I'm inclined to believe it was Delbra Adams.
I get results for a Court Specialist at State of Alabama Circuit Clerk's Office Cherokee County.
I also get results as a certified public notary located in Sand Rock, AL.
And ... I get results for Delbra Adams in Leesburg , AL. with a lot of A.K.A.s

Debra L Adams, Delbra M Adams, Debbie Adams, Debra Ly Adams, Delbra L Adams, Debble Adams, Debra Adams, Delbra Lynn Adams, Delbra L Admas

[Yosemitest]

WAKE UP and SMELL THE "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS' " STENCH !

Here's an excerpt from Rush Limbaugh's Radio Show:

The Swamp Demands Conformity
Nov 15, 2017

...
RUSH: Here’s Mark in Port Townsend — where’s Port Townsend ?
Port Townsend what?

CALLER: That’s a little bit west of Seattle.

RUSH: In Washington.
Okay. Great to have you with us.
How you doing, sir ?

CALLER: I’m doing great, sir.
I hope you’re doing well yourself.

RUSH: I am under siege today, Mark.
I’m under siege.
The Drive-By Media is after me because I dared to point out that Roy Moore used to be a Democrat.

CALLER: That’s why you get paid the big bucks.
I’m envious of you.

RUSH: (laughing).

CALLER: So the comment I wanted to make was that as a retired law enforcement officer, Jeff Sessions —
I’m speaking as a retired law enforcement officer
— Jeff Sessions says he doesn’t see any reason to doubt these girls’ word.
Well, I see a really good reason.
None of these girls have been put under oath and made a sworn statement under penalty of perjury.
And Gloria Allred should be able to tell you
that is the first thing you do when you get a client,
you depose them and you get their statement on the record,
and then you go from there.
And if they’re not willing to make a sworn statement, that sounds really fishy to me.

RUSH: I take it you don’t believe the women
or you just don’t have enough information yet to make a determination ?

CALLER: You don’t have enough information to make a determination,
but speaking as an ex-cop, I find it fishy that nobody has made a sworn statement.
And about that yearbook thing,
you know, when I was in uniform at a certain time of year
you’d get kids walking up to you all the time wanting you to sign their yearbook.
“Hey, Officer Mark, sign my yearbook.”
And I was only a cop.
Can you imagine how politicians get kids wanting —
doesn’t mean you remember all of them.

RUSH: Hang on.
On the yearbook stuff, folks, for those of you who may not be up to speed on this —
and I doubt there are very many of you
— there are allegations that some of these autographs in yearbooks are forged.
There are conservative blog sites claiming to have evidence by virtue of side-by-side comparison
that somebody other than Judge Moore signed some of these things.
This is the first I’ve mentioned that.
I’m just reacting to you bringing up the yearbooks.

You’re upset with Jeff Sessions.
He’s the attorney general, and he is going ahead and acknowledging that
he believes witnesses before anybody’s been put under oath,
and you think that’s a little unprofessional, right ?

CALLER: It sounds to me like he’s just trying to tread carefully.

RUSH: Well, look, this is politics.
It has its own court, and it’s not a court of law.

CALLER: But these girls are making public statements —

RUSH: They are women.
They are women.

CALLER: Okay, they’re making public statements impugning somebody’s honor.
And somebody with responsibility needs to explain to them,
if you’re gonna besmirch somebody, you gotta put it on the record.

RUSH: No, you don’t.
Only in court.
And this is not in court.
This is in politics.

CALLER: I understand it’s politics,
but Gloria Allred should know what the law is.

RUSH: I’m sure she does.
That’s why she’s not in court and is instead on TV.

CALLER: I just want to make that point, Rush.
Thank you.

RUSH: I’m glad you called, Mark.
Folks, I have to tell you,
I’m having a little fun with this.
No, don’t misunderstand here,
but he’s exactly right, but of course that doesn’t —
there’s a whole different inertia and movement now that is taking place in the world of politics,
and there is no room for doubt.
I mean,
the guy did it, you don’t disbelieve the women.
I mean, that’s something you must subscribe to now.
The women don’t lie,
except if you’re Juanita Broaddrick,
then of course…
that’s the point.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I was having fun with the caller and his obvious consternation
by confusing what happens in politics with what happens in the law,which is ironic,
because the laws are written by these people.
But what happens there
apparently the law doesn’t matter first and foremost.
Find it funny.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Steve in Rochester, Minnesota.
Great to have you with us, sir.
How are you ?

CALLER: Hey, good.
Thanks, Rush. Dittos.
I’ve been listening since 1991.
So I was reading through a Fox News story on the various senators,
Republican senators and their comments about this whole situation,
and I read read ’em one after another; there were many.
And I was thinking as I got most of the way through it,
this sounds a lot like your media montages, vis-a-vis gravitas,
that I often hear on your show.
The similarities were striking in what they said.
And it was an observation that led me to think that
this is really a coordinated attack.
And I think that should be the focus, not the “he said, she said,”
but the fact that
this guy’s being attacked by the establishment, big time.

RUSH: Let me put it to you another way in the form of a question.
Interesting observation, by the way, that you,
in reading and listening to all of the different people opposing Judge Moore,
they’re all saying the same thing, is that your point ?
Just like when Cheney was mentioned as the potential vice presidential nominee for George W. Bush,
about 85 media people all said,
“That’s gravitas.
This is to provide gravitas.”
They all had that word.
You think the same thing’s happening here with the response to Judge Moore ?

CALLER: Yes.
Exactly.

RUSH: Okay.
So do you think —
let me just ask you point-blank
— do you think that, whether he did it or not, he’s being railroaded ?

CALLER: Yes.

RUSH: Interesting.

CALLER: Yep. I think this is a coordinated attack,
and what spurred me to think this
was your comments yesterday about Mitch McConnell attacking Bannon’s choice.
And I thought
how else could you do this ?
Here we are a month away from the election.

RUSH: Let me tell you something.
I don’t think there’s any doubt here.
When Bannon went public and said that
Judge Moore was the first of many candidates they’re gonna support
in order to oust the Republican leadership,
I don’t think there’s any question here that McConnell’s reacting to that.

Let me just ask you this.
Have any of you ever,
do you ever remember Mitch McConnell or the Republican leadership ever going after a Democrat
the way they’re going after — (interruption)
You don’t remember.
You don’t remember McConnell ever going after a Democrat the way they’re going after …

[NKP_Vet]

Hey Matt Walsh you aint as smart as I thought you were. Where are these dozens and dozens of accusers? You’re supposed to be a conservative republican but your braindead remark sounds exactly like something a democrat would say or an establishment NeverTrumper like Shiparo or Bernie Goldberg.

[CrimsonTidegirl]

Supporter of the the Turtle and the Swamp, are you?

Moore is our candidate and this bimbo eruption only strengthens my support for him. Only a hopelessly gullible person believes that he is guilty.

I reiterate: Moore is OUR candidate. We rejected your Establishment candidate, Luther Strange.

If he wins and the GOPE attempts to expel him, do you actually expect the people of Alabama to quietly accept being disenfranchised? Expelling Moore over lies would be a declaration of war against the State of Alabama.

Listen and listen good: WE will choose our Senator, not Mitch McConnell or the other Establishment trash.

At this point, no other candidate is acceptable. It will be a cold day in Hell before I vote for any candidate handpicked by McConnell or the National Republican party. Understand?

I’m a conservative, not a Republican.

[Guenevere]

I stand with Judge Moore!

[Elsie]

He can cast the right vote, of course, but can he truly fight the Swamp? Will anyone listen to him?

I vote; but am convinced that not many listen to me.

[Morpheus2009]

Let’s get this straight. Rapists, pedophiles, and other sexual predators are addicted to what they do, and usually go in the direction of more out of control and less discrete with what they do. If Moore really was that guilty, it’s likely allegations would be coming down from more recently than 40 years ago.

[Kaslin]

That is an excellent point.

[Old Retired Army Guy]

Ivey’s position may very well elect a Democrat to the Senate from AL, which is exactly the opposite of what she wants. She and she alone has the power to postpone or even cancel this Special Election. She may regret her decision to do nothing.

[eartick]

There is other ways. Fire Ears Sessions, write him in and he will win hands down because most Alabama Republicans still adore (just threw up a little) him. Then President Trump can maybe, just maybe find a fire eating democrat hating prosecuting madman/woman that does not have a damn thing to recuse themselves from except bathroom breaks that will find the WE THE PEOPLE some gdamn JUSTICE before we pick up our weapons and a ton of ammo and take this country back or LEAVE THE BASTARD high and dry (THAT IS MY VOTE).

T for #TEXIT

[eartick]

His accusers will disappear, like they did with Trump.

You think with all of the take downs that are happening right now that these accusers are not going to reappear with a vengeance? I think they will and this is pretty much what is on the horizon.

For President Trump's sake and for the sake of America we cannot handle anymore of this male bovine scat before the moral order is restored by force.

[Amish with an attitude]

Same here.

[miserare]

yes! when did FReepers get so dumbed down when they cannot see the Alinsky Treatment being applied to Moore? Really! Can’t they see the hand of the Enemy at work here? A guy who defends the Ten Commandments does’t belong in the Senate. Really? Were these idiot FReepers born yesterday