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New Gun Bill Urges Everyone to Obey the Other Gun Bills
Reason Magazine ^

Posted on 11/16/2017 1:38:04 PM PST by JP1201

A new bipartisan bill aimed at fixing the holes in the federal background check system was introduced today. Sponsored by an unlikely collection of senators that includes Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) and John Cornyn (R-Texas), the "Fix NICS Act" promises to "enforce current law regarding the National Instant Criminal Background Check System" (NICS) by giving money to states that do a good job of getting records into the system, and by penalizing federal agencies that do a bad job of it.

The proposal is a response to the Air Force's failure to report Sutherland Springs shooter Devin Kelley's assault conviction to the NICS, which would have prevented him from passing any federal background check.

As far as legislative responses to mass shootings go, this one at first glance seems pretty harmless. For evidence, look at the air of disappointment with which its Democratic sponsors unveiled it. "It's no secret that I believe much more needs to be done. But this bill will make sure that thousands of dangerous people are prevented from buying guns," said sponsor Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).

Murphy had introduced a bill in late October to actually expand background checks. Feinstein likewise demanded more background checks after the Vegas shooting to compliment her proposed ban on bump stocks. The Fix NICS Act does none of this.

Instead it would require every federal agency, within a year, to create a plan to do better job of handing over records to the federal background check system. The bill would deny bonuses to these agencies' political appointees should they fail to come up with a plan or otherwise fail to comply with it.

The bill would also prioritize certain grants to states that draft similar plans.

This is pretty weak sauce, so it's far from clear that it'll be effective at encouraging more compliance. A similar effort 10 years ago—the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007—obviously failed to prevent the murders in Sutherland Springs.

Ineffective as it might be, the Fix NICS Act is far preferable to some of the other gun control measures bandied about since the October 1 shooting in Las Vegas. Several days after that shooting, a bipartisan House bill was introduced that would retroactively criminalize not only bump stocks—the obscure weapon modification used by Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock—but also any device that increases a semiautomatic weapon's rate of fire. A few weeks after that, another bipartisan House bill was unveiled that would require background checks for the purchase of bump stocks.

Neither has gone anywhere so far. As Reason noted when that second bill was introduced, the outrage machine that is the modern news cycle seemed to have moved on from bump stocks. The November 5 Sutherland Springs shooting sparked renewed interest in some form of gun control regulation, but that second wave appears to have subsided too.

What does that leave us with? A bill so bland that both hardcore gun controllers like Feinstein and relatively solid Second Amendment advocates like Cornyn can publicly support it.


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1 posted on 11/16/2017 1:38:05 PM PST by JP1201
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Ineffective as it might be, the Fix NICS Act is far preferable ...

holy crap....
2 posted on 11/16/2017 1:41:36 PM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.Ever.)
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To: JP1201

As usual there is bribery involved. If a state does a good job they will give it money. Our money. There is no end to how they will give away our money.


3 posted on 11/16/2017 1:43:59 PM PST by certrtwngnut
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This is assenine!!

IT WAS THE USAF THAT TRUCKED UP, WITH THE TEXAS CHURCH SHOOTER, NOT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!

That proved that the f4ederal government, just like healthcare, cannot keep from just plain trucking up the everyday lives of the American people.

Y’ALL KEEP GETTIN’ IT TWISTED!!

This is a waste of time, of taxpayer money, and a, ahem, one-handed motion in the ocean, which did NOTHING!!


4 posted on 11/16/2017 1:44:06 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: JP1201

So, they pass a law that makes it against the law to break the law?................


5 posted on 11/16/2017 1:44:49 PM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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This sounds like a good bill to me. The only thing I find lacking is that it would be nice if they outlawed homicide and made it illegal. Something must be done about that. There is just too much killing going on out there in our wonderful "multicultural and diverse" tribal society.

sarc/

6 posted on 11/16/2017 1:46:47 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (2017 - The year the liberals' "sexual revolution" strikes back!)
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To: JP1201

Gun Crime ... 1st charge to be plead away, to get to another crime. Gun laws, as far as stopping gun crime, are worthless; AGs do not indite gun charges, and judges often let the perp go on time served, or personal bond ... allowing the perp to do it all over again or worse.


7 posted on 11/16/2017 1:47:37 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: JP1201

Cornhio sucks for supporting this garbage.


8 posted on 11/16/2017 1:50:35 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: JP1201

A bill is needed to make sure that everyone reads/follows/enforces the other bills


9 posted on 11/16/2017 1:51:34 PM PST by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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To: Red Badger
Why not? Enacting sanctuary city legislation is passing a law that makes it legal to break a law.
10 posted on 11/16/2017 1:55:19 PM PST by fhayek
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To: stylin19a

I would be happier f the a-holes n DC quit writing stupid laws.


11 posted on 11/16/2017 1:58:17 PM PST by jospehm20
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Current text of bill: https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2017/11/15/senate-section/article/s7263-1?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22fix+nics%22%5D%7D&r=1

Upshot:
They’re going to CERTIFY that the NICS database is correct.
They’re very serious about this certification.
They’re really going to encourage compliance with entering the relevant data.
Very serious about CERTIFYING correctness & completeness.
Yup.
CERTIFY.


12 posted on 11/16/2017 1:58:46 PM PST by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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Can we bring back King George? There were some pretty egregious offenses under his rule such as seizing property and the quartering of troops - but overall - we were MUCH better off.

Of course I would prefer Constitutionally limited government - but that ship sailed in 1865.


13 posted on 11/16/2017 2:02:41 PM PST by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: JP1201

A Smattering of Dianne Feinstein "wisdom".....
For your edification....

14 posted on 11/16/2017 2:02:47 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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I know why don’t they pass a law saying it is illegal to murder people with a gun? I know that would work, all their gun laws work out so well for us legal gun owners, just look at Chicago for one example.


15 posted on 11/16/2017 2:03:02 PM PST by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever! It is offical, we are at war!)
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To: Red Badger

Yes...that will work, just like the law having to tell FBI about violent military members..................oh wait.

Hey did you see where Jerry Brown changed the law in Cali. No more harsh crime if you use a gun during crime? They gotta get more mass shootings to happen, not happening fast enough to take away our 2nd amendment.

Just think if killary was in power, we would have already had congress pass laws against some of our weapons by now.


16 posted on 11/16/2017 2:07:42 PM PST by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever! It is offical, we are at war!)
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To: fhayek

Federal law is supreme over any state law.

We decided that question in the 1860’s...........


17 posted on 11/16/2017 2:18:08 PM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: JP1201

There needs to be a law which restricts insane incompetents from standing for election and removes those who slip through the initial vetting process.


18 posted on 11/16/2017 2:25:27 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Why is it no one ever discusses the rabid Amerophobia which infects Islam and its adherents?)
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To: JP1201

You can bet there’s a poison pill in there somewhere, or one will be added just prior to passage. Banning possession of semiautomatic arms, or something.


19 posted on 11/16/2017 2:28:05 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of MAGA. Likely have a civil war before we get more.)
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To: JP1201
More meaningless nonsense.

Yet, the GOP can't pass a single bill!

20 posted on 11/16/2017 3:20:02 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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