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MT: Pheasant Hunter Kills Charging Grizzly with 12 Gauge
Ammoland ^ | 13 November, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/14/2017 7:11:39 AM PST by marktwain

11 year old Elliot Clark killed this charging grizzly with a shotgun in Alaska in July of 2017.  He used a 12 gauge shotgun.

The first shot was ineffective, with bird shot. The second shot was a perfectly placed slug in middle of the nose. The third shot was to the shoulder. It is likely both would have been fatal. There were powder burns on the bears mouth from the third shot. The fourth shot was an insurance shot after the bear was down.

In Montana, a few days ago, in early November, 2017, a 60-year-old pheasant hunter shot and killed a charging grizzly bear, mortally wounding it. He used a 12 gauge shotgun.
While details of the story are a little muddy, one account says  he shot in air, then shot the bear in the chest, as it ran at him. The final shot was said to be in the bear's face. 
From ktvq.com:

PENDROY – A bird hunter shot and killed a grizzly bear five miles east of Pendroy Saturday. Pendroy is about 80 miles northwest of Great Falls.

According to Mike Madel of Montana Fish, Wildlife, and Parks, the hunter shot the adult female grizzly in the face with a 12-gauge shotgun.

The bear ran off. Then next day, the bear was found, dead.

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Bird shot is deadly to big game at extremely close range (less than 5 yards).
1 posted on 11/14/2017 7:11:39 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Pump action shotgun, four reloads is possible. But if the first were birdshot, did he load the second, third and fourth are slugs specifically because of the bear threat?

If so, good thinking. But would not the second be bird shot?


2 posted on 11/14/2017 7:17:04 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: marktwain

Kid at 11 is more man than most men today.

I’ve told folks for years to leave the spray at home and pack a 12 gauge for bear defense. Stories like this reaffirm my advice and choices.


3 posted on 11/14/2017 7:17:05 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: marktwain

Wow. I would have bet money that bird shot in the face would do squat to a charging grizzly bear.


4 posted on 11/14/2017 7:17:09 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: marktwain

Not sure I understand this. Photo kind of looks like a pump I used to have before stupidly taking up boating, which would seem to be needed for a charging bear. Does one regularly load shells of increasing strength just in case the 2nd and 3rd shots are for bear?


5 posted on 11/14/2017 7:18:17 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: marktwain

Being at extremely close range (less than 5 yards) to big game can be deadly.

:)

http://www.wideopenspaces.com/10-best-bear-defense-guns-pics/


6 posted on 11/14/2017 7:18:52 AM PST by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

A lot of us, myself included will load a spread round first and then load slugs. The idea is when a bear or other animal is coming at you, you may only get off a quick snapshot. You’re more likely to score a hit with the spread, and stun or slow the animal down enough to get aimed slug shots off after.


7 posted on 11/14/2017 7:19:37 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

Very good advice!


8 posted on 11/14/2017 7:19:48 AM PST by bantam
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To: marktwain

He should change his middle name to “Lucky”.


9 posted on 11/14/2017 7:20:05 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

Pump action shotgun, four reloads is possible. But if the first were birdshot, did he load the second, third and fourth are slugs specifically because of the bear threat?


Yes, he did. In the story, he said he had just changed out the loads the day before! His shotgun was in his hands, because he had not put a sling on it yet. The two men in front of him had rifles, but they were slung on their shoulders.

The bear knocked them aside as it charged him. Maybe because he was the smallest of the group?


10 posted on 11/14/2017 7:21:00 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Bulwyf

Interesting, first I’d heard of this. Thanks.


11 posted on 11/14/2017 7:21:43 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: marktwain

WOW.

In Kansas we dont have the “grizzly bear” option with our pheasant hunts. That Kid’s gotta huntin story for life.


12 posted on 11/14/2017 7:22:52 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: Poison Pill

“I would have bet money that bird shot in the face would do squat to a charging grizzly bear.”

If at 10 feet+ it would probably put its eyes out. Closer, it might as well be a slug.

But, yeah, I’d prefer a slug.


13 posted on 11/14/2017 7:23:15 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

They can hold 4 in the tube and 1 in the pipe. If he was experienced he may have always kept those in there. Some bird hunting only allows 2 or 3 shots available and the extra space taken by a spacer or slug.

He may have been using the big stuff as a spacer and keep it in reserve for the Griz.


14 posted on 11/14/2017 7:24:08 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: smokingfrog

With practice, you can hit very small targets, very fast with a pump shotgun.

With a bit of adrenaline, the shots sound like a slow machine gun, less than a quarter of a second between shots.


15 posted on 11/14/2017 7:24:35 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

I’ll bet their underwear didn’t make it...


16 posted on 11/14/2017 7:29:11 AM PST by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

He may have already fired once at something else.


17 posted on 11/14/2017 7:31:18 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Bulwyf
I’ve told folks for years to leave the spray at home and pack a 12 gauge for bear defense. Stories like this reaffirm my advice and choices.

Given how quick they are, and how close they might be before you have a shot, I carry over/under 20 Gauge (two triggers == two shots instantly, plus if one is misfire you still have one) with steel slugs (not lead, steel) when in bear country.

18 posted on 11/14/2017 7:31:59 AM PST by LambSlave
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To: Bulwyf
"You’re more likely to score a hit with the spread, and stun or slow the animal down enough to get aimed slug shots off after."

this is the same reason many alternate shot/slug rounds for home defense purposes.

19 posted on 11/14/2017 7:33:25 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Robert A Cook PE

In heavy vegetation, given rapid charge from close in, you may well have only time for one shot.


20 posted on 11/14/2017 7:33:32 AM PST by LambSlave
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