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Shooting from the Hip . . . with Blanks
Townhall.com ^ | Nov 12, 2017 | Paul Jacob

Posted on 11/12/2017 1:07:01 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

“When do we say enough is enough?” asked California Senator Kamala Harris after Devon Patrick Kelley murdered 26 churchgoing Texans in cold blood, last Sunday.

“When will this end?” prodded Diane Feinstein, California’s other senator. “When will we decide that we can’t accept massacres in our places of worship, schools, or at concerts? When will we actually do something about it?”

“As my colleagues go to sleep tonight,” chided Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy, “they need to think about whether the political support of the gun industry is worth the blood that flows endlessly onto the floors of American churches, elementary schools, movie theaters, and city streets.”

On the other hand, President Donald Trump pointed out that criminals wouldn’t shrink from violating gun laws to acquire weapons. The president also speculated that “instead of having 26 dead, you would have had hundreds more dead” had Stephen Willeford, the former National Rifle Association instructor living a block from the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, not rushed to the sound of the gunfire with his AR-15 in hand.

No one can predict, of course, what precisely would have happened without Willeford’s well-armed and clear-headed heroics. We only know and give thanks that a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun.

“Democrats have rushed to microphones to condemn the National Rifle Association for its supposed intransigence,” Ben Shapiro wrote at National Review, “despite the fact that it was an NRA instructor who put down the Texas church shooter.”

Furthermore, as Shapiro recounted, shooter Devon Kelley had previously “escaped from a mental institution in 2012, threatened his superior officers and attempted to smuggle weapons onto a military base to carry out those threats, cracked the skull of his infant stepson, beat his wife, abused a dog.”

And yet the background check system is so badly managed as to provide no hint of incapacitation to this dangerous man. Instead, it offered a seal of approval to buy a weapon.

After previous mass shootings, congressional Democrats have self-righteously pushed legislation that — in each case — would not have prevented that particular killer from obtaining the weapons under its own terms. This time it’s different, since the shooter should not, by current law, have been allowed to purchase the firearms he used to commit such evil. Kelley’s conviction for domestic violence, while serving in the Air Force, disqualified him from owning a gun.

But the Air Force did not do its job, failing to report his record to the FBI. So the subsequent background check found . . . nothing.

No system is perfect, of course. But, lo and behold, even with constant calls for additional legislation to mandate more background checks, the background check system lacks the critical data inputs necessary for providing meaningful protection.

“An FBI database known as the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, which contains information for use in background checks on prospective gun buyers, had only one Pentagon entry for domestic violence convictions as of Dec. 31, 2016,” the Associated Press (AP) reported.

And it turns out this problem is anything but new.

“The Pentagon has known for at least two decades about failures to give military criminal history information to the FBI,” informed the AP, “including the type of information the Air Force didn’t report about the Texas church gunman. . . .”

The Obama administration, through its command of the military or lack thereof, failed to execute the law designed to keep guns out of dangerous hands. Rendering the background check no check at all. Fewer speeches about the need for more gun laws and more attention to the details of getting the job done — effectively implementing the law to actually control guns — might have saved lives.

And it appears that this wholesale failure dates back to George W. Bush and even Bill Clinton days. And, more pertinently, continues into the Trump administration.

At the direction of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, a Pentagon inspector general has now launched an investigation to “define what the problem is.” Twenty years ago, a 1997 IG investigation found widespread failures to report data to the FBI, “which prevents civilian law enforcement agencies from having significant information on military offenders.”

For example, the Army failed to inform civilian authorities of criminal case outcomes a whopping 79 percent of the time, the Air Force flunked half the time, and the Navy neglected its reporting duty in 94 percent of cases.

The report identified “several reasons for the lapses,” according to the AP, “including ambiguous Pentagon guidelines and a lack of interest among the military services in submitting information to an FBI viewed as chronically overburdened with data.”

A lack of interest?

Where does the buck stop?

We don’t need gun control; we need government control.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment
An unbelievable level of ineptitude has created a system where the richest communities in America surround Washington, DC where ineptitude pays handsomely. If you had a system that was making you rich, with no consequences for failure, at other people's expense what would be your motivation to change it?
1 posted on 11/12/2017 1:07:01 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The military issue is bad enough but many court system fail to report convictions also. We had a local shooting 10 or so years ago the was committed by a person that should of been barred from owning a gun - fail by the court at a 100% rate.


2 posted on 11/12/2017 1:55:55 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

When do we say enough is enough?” asked California Senator Kamala Harris

I thought we did that when we rejected Hillary Clinton for Donald Trump!


3 posted on 11/12/2017 2:29:10 AM PST by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

New gun control laws will solve nothing since the government does not follow existing laws.


4 posted on 11/12/2017 3:34:12 AM PST by 43north (Drive the scenic route and take the dog.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Wasn’t Kamala the one who as California Attorney General created a set of gun control laws in California that were soon deemed for the most part impossible to administer because of their overly burdensome weight and overall very poor construction?


5 posted on 11/12/2017 4:15:14 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I am going to venture a reason why the military is not submitting data.

Let’s say you are air force security. You run a case on an airman who has beaten his wife. You fill out the paperwork required to prosecute the case. You may even testify. You then go back to the office. The case in in the hands of the military court. And...you never hear anything about what happened after that. You are on to the next case.

Even if somebody told you that the airman was convicted, you are busy working another case...or two...or three.

This sounds like a process failure. The process, as designed, will convict the airman, but it is not designed to finish all the paperwork that has come along years after the process was designed and implemented.


6 posted on 11/12/2017 4:46:06 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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“”When do we say enough is enough?” asked California Senator Kamala Harris””

Just as soon as you give up all security personnel who carry guns and move out of a gated community!!!! That goes for Feinstein too!!! That will really be a COLD DAY ~~~~~~~!

Not sure if Feinstein lives in a gated community - heck, not even sure Harris does either and maybe Feinstein doesn’t as she appropriated land that belonged to a SF park years ago so she could add more land to the parcel her home sat on.


7 posted on 11/12/2017 9:04:34 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/boozy-night-ends-with-midwest-fbi-chiefs-gun-rolex-swiped-from-hotel/


8 posted on 11/12/2017 6:58:13 PM PST by KeyLargo
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“...is worth the blood that flows endlessly onto the floors of American churches, elementary schools, movie theaters, and city streets.”

Our preacher was talking about courage vs. fear today. He mentioned some statistic - something like violent crime is down 75% from 30 years ago. Although polling data shows that the majority of people believe it is more dangerous in America than it was 30 years ago.

Fear is a strong motivating force. It sells TV and newspapers and internet sites offering the latest crazy idea to solve the problem you fear (ED, baldness, money, etc.). It also sells the latest crazy laws.


9 posted on 11/12/2017 7:05:36 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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