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Senate Republican tax plan may eliminate property tax deductions and delay corporate cut
The Los Angeles Times ^ | November 8th, 2017 | Lisa Mascaro and Jim Puzzanghera

Posted on 11/08/2017 7:28:05 PM PST by Mariner

As they prepare to unveil their own sweeping tax plan, Senate Republicans are revisiting key provisions of the GOP House proposal, including possibly eliminating property tax deductions as well as state income tax deductions, increasing the size of child-care credits, offering more help to small businesses and having corporate tax cuts phase in or expire, according to those familiar with the negotiations.

The final outline of the Senate plan, scheduled to be released Thursday, remained a work in progress, officials cautioned.

“Everything is on the table,” said one Republican official Tuesday evening, who did not want to be identified discussing the talks.

House and Senate Republicans agreed on an early framework for the tax overhaul — lowering corporate rates to 20% and consolidating individual brackets.

But as House Republicans push ahead with a vote next week on their bill, Senate Republicans are constrained by Senate rules that require their package not increase the federal deficit by more than $1.5 trillion over a decade.

Core to the Senate’s dilemma is how to make the corporate tax rates immediate and permanent — as President Trump wants — which has left them searching for revenue streams so they don’t add to the deficit.

They are considering various options: Fully repealing state and local tax deductions that are important to California and other high-tax states, including property taxes; adjusting individual tax brackets so higher-income households that earn less than $1 million fall in the top 39.6% rate; retaining some type of estate tax; or repealing parts of Obamacare.

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KEYWORDS: 115th; house; senate; senatetaxplan; taxes; taxincrease; trump; trumptaxcuts; trumptaxplan
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To: Angels27

What about the primaries? We primary the RINO out of the way then run a MAGA candidate and let the chips fall where they may.


121 posted on 11/09/2017 8:03:26 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Mariner
"Forget about the MAGA agenda that is best for the American people", say Republican Senators, "Instead, let's do the same old garbage that the American people hate!"

"Excellent plan", say Democratic Senators, "Uniparty forever!"

122 posted on 11/09/2017 8:06:15 AM PST by Architect of Avalon
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To: Mariner

Our government has become totally dysfuncional. It is not responding to our will as expressed at the last presidential election. This ignoring of the people is the stuff of revolutions.


123 posted on 11/09/2017 8:19:48 AM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall")
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To: Mariner

The standard deduction will increase (BIGLY!) and offset the loss of property tax deductions for most, except the wealthy in high-tax blue states.


124 posted on 11/09/2017 8:22:09 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
There are times when I wish ISIS could smuggle a nuke into D.C. and just take the evil place out forever.

My son, daughter-in-law and grandson and college student nephew in D.C. might object to that plan. But then, I've said the same about NK nukes and San Freaksicko, so I can't complain...

8^(

125 posted on 11/09/2017 8:26:29 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Jarhead9297

President Trump has promised to not touch entitlements and to increase defense spending.

So, where are the cuts? 80 percent of the budget is either untouchable or set to increase.


126 posted on 11/09/2017 8:30:46 AM PST by WVMnteer
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To: WVMnteer

And yes that is a damn shame. If the start of any discussion regarding government cash flow is that it needs more then we’ve already lost and conservatism as we knew it is dead


127 posted on 11/09/2017 8:33:15 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: stockpirate
They refuse to cut spending.

Public Law 95-435, Section 7, adopted in 1981, states that the Federal Government can not spend more than it takes in. It is still valid, so why do our elected officials in Congress not obey that law? Why is it not enforced?

128 posted on 11/09/2017 8:35:05 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Jarhead9297

Of course Conservatism is dead. Donald Trump is the President.

Conservatism - small government, low taxes, Judeo-Christian values, free trade - is out. We’re a populist, nationalist protectionist party.

Trump’s philosophy - and it’s clearly popular - is that government is good when it helps YOU, not the other guy.


129 posted on 11/09/2017 8:39:46 AM PST by WVMnteer
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To: Cannoneer
George Washington is rolling in his grave.

That slave-owning SOB? Who cares? < /BLM speak >

130 posted on 11/09/2017 8:45:09 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: WVMnteer

I’m with you on that. Beware a Government stating we are here to help you no matter who is at the helm


131 posted on 11/09/2017 8:46:09 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: Jarhead9297

That’s my fear of populism. Populism needs an enemy. It’s fun when it’s Hollywood liberals and establishment politicians.

It’s less fun when its white suburbanites - since that’s me.


132 posted on 11/09/2017 8:47:46 AM PST by WVMnteer
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To: DannyTN
Raise the import tariffs and drop individual and corporate taxes.

Import tariffs at a moderate rate combined with a version of the FairTax and a repeal of all income taxes would work. But it would take too much power away from the political class. That can only be solved by TERM LIMITS. NO MORE CAREER POLITICIANS! Make those wannabe masters become public SERVANTS.

133 posted on 11/09/2017 8:51:31 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

“and offset the loss of property tax deductions for most, except the wealthy in high-tax blue states.”

Nonsense.

The “wealthy”?

That’s Social Justice Warrior language right there.


134 posted on 11/09/2017 8:53:09 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
“and offset the loss of property tax deductions for most, except the wealthy in high-tax blue states.”

Nonsense.

The “wealthy”?

Run the numbers. Those who pay the highest property taxes (typically the higher earners and the "wealthy") will be affected most by the loss of the deduction. They will have options; relocate to a lower tax environment or vote out the tax-and-spend liberals in their own states.

That’s Social Justice Warrior language right there.

No SJW here, just my perception of realism!

135 posted on 11/09/2017 9:05:19 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Mariner; All
Senate Republican tax plan may eliminate property tax deductions and delay corporate cut

The current Pubblie leadership in both the Senate and House need to learn more about basic economics.

I learned about economics a long time ago when I was in school and it was a supply and demand curve. We learned about this supply and demand curve throughout the whole semester of this class. We learned that it works to have supply side economics.

We now have a POTUS who wants to help out ordinary Americans and our economy by having across the board tax cuts to stimulate the economy. President Trump is even cutting our business taxes to 20% for all businesses. Our current POTUS wants to do this simply to get our economy growing at a 4% to maybe even 8% rate instead of the 2% or less of economic growth rate for the last 8 years under that America Hating Imposter Obama.

We already know the current Far Left Liberal Rat party is not for Tax cuts period. The Liberal Left Rat party does not want our economy to grow at 4% and higher rates period.

You would think that Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell would want to do this but they are known as "Never Trumpers" and they do not want President Trump to succeed. I do not know why they are so against doing these immediate cuts. It is the largest Tax cuts in the history of our great country and it makes a lot of sense.

This current Establishment Pubbies like Ryan and McConnell never took a basic economics class in their life.

I am sorry that this bunch of Pubbie leadership in the House and Senate want to phase in cuts which goes against any immediate economic positive sense.

136 posted on 11/09/2017 10:56:18 AM PST by TheConservativeTejano
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To: TheConservativeTejano

“by having across the board tax cuts to stimulate the economy”

Not even close. There are millions that will see higher taxes.

“It is the largest Tax cuts in the history of our great country and it makes a lot of sense.”

Again, not even close. At $150bil per year, net, they are the 8th largest cuts in US history.


137 posted on 11/09/2017 11:12:18 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: DannyTN

Tariffs raise domestic prices. Review the fight over the tariff in the first half of the 19th century it was omnipresent and brutal nearly bringing the Civil War on 30 yrs earlier. It clearly discriminated against agriculture.

The jobs that have been replaced by imports are primarily jobs with no future, the worst thing a protective tariff does.

Barriers to US goods must come down, I agree. That is why Trump is in the Orient.


138 posted on 11/09/2017 3:11:01 PM PST by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: nopardons

What world do you think he lives in? What world do you live in?


139 posted on 11/09/2017 3:12:45 PM PST by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: arrogantsob

Tariffs server our country well for the first 180 years. And since we’ve lowered them we’ve seen industry after industry disappear.

It’s not simply low value jobs that went overseas. It’s High tech jobs. And design jobs and marketing jobs follwed. And with it goes the innovation. If we want to lead in Robotics, we have to have the processes to automate.

We don’t need barriers to US goods to come down. We need barriers to the US market to go up.

Our founding fathers viewed the Tariffs as a tax on foreigners wanting to sell into our markets.


140 posted on 11/09/2017 3:44:07 PM PST by DannyTN
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