I bet none of them ever saw the apple ad.
Posted on 10/26/2017 2:40:50 PM PDT by EdnaMode
CNN prides itself apparently in being a facts first organization. There’s that idiotic apple ad they’ve been running. This is what CNN’s Chris Cillizza wrote on October 19, which pretty much slams President Trump for suggesting that the FBI, the Democrats, and Russia might be conspirators with these files. It was in reaction to a tweet in which the president said, “Workers of firm involved with the discredited and Fake Dossier take the 5th. Who paid for it, Russia, the FBI or the Dems (or all)?”
He is suggesting that a dossier prepared by a former member of British intelligence has not only been totally discredited (it hasn't -- more on that in a minute) but that it might have been funded by some combination of Russia, the Democratic Party and, wait for it, the FBI!
Let's start with the facts.
At issue is a dossier prepared by Christopher Steele, a former British spy, which details explosive allegations about potential ties between Trump's campaign and Russia. The dossier's more salacious elements regarding Trump have drawn most of the attention -- and remain totally unproven. But it appears as though US intelligence officials do take some chunk of what Steele found quite seriously.
[…] The bigger issue -- at least to me -- is that Trump is suggesting that the dossier itself was funded by some combination of a foreign power, the opposition political party and a federal law enforcement agency. It's easy to roll your eyes at the very suggestion and dismiss that idea as just Trump being Trump. "You guys always take him literally," Trump's supporters will say. "You shouldn't!"
OK. But here's the thing: President Trump is, um, the President. Which means he is held to the same standard every past president is held to. And by that standard, this tweet is crazy.
[…] The point here is that it is deeply irresponsible for a president of the United States to even flirt with this sort of conspiracy talk. You can love Donald Trump and still believe that the idea that the Russians, the Democrats and the FBI co-funded a dossier designed to discredit Trump's 2016 campaign is totally bonkers.
Flash-forward to October 24, that unverified Trump dossier was a Democratic-funded operation. Marc Elias, a lawyer with the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee, retained Fusion GPS who then paid former MI6 operative Christopher Steele to gather information on Donald Trump. This dossier serves as one of the reasons why we have a special counsel investigating possible collusion between the Trump team and the Russians. The Washington Post had the scoop—and they noted that this was solely a Democratic-funded event. It’s true that this effort started out as an opposition research event by an anti-Trump Republican, but the Democrats only paid Steele:
Some of the pushback on the left has focused on the fact that a still-unidentified Republican client retained Fusion GPS to do research on Trump before the Clinton campaign and the DNC did. Thus, they argue, it's wrong to say the dossier was just funded by Democrats.
But The Post is reporting that the dossier's author, Steele, wasn't brought into the mix until after Democrats retained Fusion GPS. So while both sides paid Fusion GPS, Steele was only funded by Democrats.
And here’s the rest:
The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.
Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research. After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.
The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS’s research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.
Oh, and about the FBI:
After the election, the FBI agreed to pay Steele to continue gathering intelligence about Trump and Russia, but the bureau pulled out of the arrangement after Steele was publicly identified in news reports. So, yeah, it’s Trump. It’s rough around the edges. Some of it is still unverified, like the dossier, and there is no evidence that this was a conspiracy between Democrats, Russia, and the FBI. It does pave the way for more questions about this whole Russia collusion story in general, which I have maintained was a bunch of bunk. Overall—it looks like the essence of what Trump suggested wasn’t insane. For former Bush aide Ari Fleischer, he tweeted that it looks like...collusion.
Kimberley Strassel ✔ @KimStrassel Questions for Comey: Did he know? If not, why didn't he ask? Did FBI rely on a Democrat-funded oppo document to get warrants on Trump folk? https://twitter.com/ChanceBGardener/status/922993095343575040 … 9:09 PM - Oct 24, 2017 123 123 Replies 911 911 Retweets 1,519 1,519 likes
Kimberley Strassel ✔ @KimStrassel Fallon: “My bosses commissioned a doc that might have been manipulated by Russians. Wish I’d helped”. And folk say Trump is unhinged. https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/922990478387183616 … 10:39 PM - Oct 24, 2017 267 267 Replies 2,520 2,520 Retweets 5,054 5,054 likes
Kimberley Strassel ✔ @KimStrassel Actually, no. GOP supposedly funded stateside research into Trump (tho still don't know that). Ds paid for the Russian dossier. https://twitter.com/CjMonde1/status/923251388020412416 … 2:39 PM - Oct 25, 2017 18 18 Replies 70 70 Retweets 168 168 likes
The Bananas paid for it.
I bet none of them ever saw the apple ad.
that was a banana, dammit!
It was a banana?
LOL. That just about sums it up. :D
What is Chris Cillizza saying today? Are they even letting him say anything?
“It can hardly be a coincidence that no language on Earth has ever produced the expression “as pretty as an airport”. — Douglas Adams
And no language has “as factual as CNN”... except as wry sarcasm.
It is off that they haven’t pulled it and as far as I know Cillizza hasn’t addressed it.
” I would really like to know what in the dossier CNN thinks has been found to be true... “
Clapper has been saying some things have been found true. He has not said what was found not to be true or cannot be determined. The statement he is making could be nothing more than Trump went to Russia, found to be true.
If Clapper wanted to be regarded as a professional he would keep his mouth shut. Instead he is fueling the fire and CNN is feeding on it. We will probably find out eventually he was aware of Clinton’s actions and said nothing or was part of the criminal conspiracy.
Steele is being sued in a U.S. and British court by Aleksej Gubarev for libel.
Mr. Steele has already admitted in a court filing that he never verified the charge information about Gubarev.
The dossier got places wrong, got names wrong, had people there who could prove they weren’t.
Why take the dossier info any further ?
These people are bat-spit crazy.
The Dossier was circulated in the media for months before it was made public. Not even lying CNN would go with it before the election! That tells all that need be known about what in the Dossier could be verified.
The name and address information, business names, publicly available financial information are accurate.
The “and’s” and the “the’s” are true. The rest is all BS.
The “and’s” and the “the’s” are true. The rest is all BS.
but I would really like to know what in the dossier CNN thinks has been found to be true...
Excellent point.
Yeah they really are crazy.
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