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The truth about who pays the most taxes in America (W.Williams)
Herman Cain show website ^ | 10/24/17 | Dr. Walter E. Williams

Posted on 10/24/2017 9:20:23 AM PDT by T-Bird45

Not what you've been told.

Politicians exploit public ignorance. Few areas of public ignorance provide as many opportunities for political demagoguery as taxation.

Today some politicians argue that the rich must pay their fair share and label the proposed changes in tax law as tax cuts for the rich. Let’s look at who pays what, with an eye toward attempting to answer this question: Are the rich paying their fair share?

According to the latest IRS data, the payment of income taxes is as follows.

The top 1 percent of income earners, those having an adjusted annual gross income of $480,930 or higher, pay about 39 percent of federal income taxes. That means about 892,000 Americans are stuck with paying 39 percent of all federal taxes.

The top 10 percent of income earners, those having an adjusted gross income over $138,031, pay about 70.6 percent of federal income taxes. About 1.7 million Americans, less than 1 percent of our population, pay 70.6 percent of federal income taxes. Is that fair, or do you think they should pay more?

By the way, earning $500,000 a year doesn’t make one rich. It’s not even yacht money.

(Excerpt) Read more at hermancain.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brackets; fairshare; paymore; taxcuts
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Always love reading Dr. Williams for his common sense and grasp of how to communicate clearly on what politicians prefer to obfuscate. Definitely worth the click...
1 posted on 10/24/2017 9:20:23 AM PDT by T-Bird45
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To: T-Bird45

“An important subject area in economics is called tax incidence. It holds that the entity upon whom a tax is levied does not necessarily bear its full burden. Some of it can be shifted to another party.

If a tax is levied on a corporation, it will have one of four responses or some combination thereof. It will raise the price of its product, lower dividends, cut salaries, or lay off workers. In each case, a flesh-and-blood person bears the tax burden.”

Wish he’d written the whole article on this subject.
Huge ignorance of it.

“They’re not taxing me, they’re taxing the guy I buy from!”


2 posted on 10/24/2017 9:30:54 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: T-Bird45

Bookmark


3 posted on 10/24/2017 9:40:38 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: T-Bird45
Walter Williams is great.I used to love hearing him fill in for Rush and talk about having the right to sell his kidney if he wanted to.But $500K/yr not being rich? Maybe in Manhattan and Beverley Hills that's true...but elsewhere,maybe not.
4 posted on 10/24/2017 9:41:05 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: mrsmith

Tax incidence is usually part of first year economics. But it might not be memorable even to those who take the course.


5 posted on 10/24/2017 9:44:18 AM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: T-Bird45

I used to feel that we should lower taxes on the rich rino establishment and their upper class elitist cohorts. But, since both of them are trying to destroy our borders that has completely changed. Until the border is secure and until they stop spending out money as they want and as long as the corporate medias smears us I say no more tax cuts. I am sick and tired of a Conservatism that does not work for conservatives but only for the corporatist.


6 posted on 10/24/2017 9:50:23 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: T-Bird45

Walter E. Williams.....he always joked that his wife called him Mr. Williams....this guy is the real deal all around.

Teachable moment always....

God Bless.


7 posted on 10/24/2017 10:00:56 AM PDT by Uversabound (Might does not make right, but it does enforce the commonly recognized rights of each succeeding gen)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The term “rich” really has no meaning, everyone has their opinion. To you & me $500k/yr is a lot but considering some earn in the millions or billions range, along with the yachts and Bugatti Veyron’s they own, it really isn’t.

That said, I’m technically a 10%er, I know people that consider me “rich” yet I’m still far from being able to retire.


8 posted on 10/24/2017 10:07:24 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Pelham

“Free shipping! What a deal!”
The media has it’s reasons for squelching the subject I suppose.

A state can “end” sales taxes- by making the retailer pay them instead of the consumer...


9 posted on 10/24/2017 10:08:14 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: T-Bird45

Democrats,liberals love to categorize everything by race...EXCEPT taxes and who pays them.......Hmmmm wonder why??????


10 posted on 10/24/2017 10:21:53 AM PDT by Hambone 1934
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To: T-Bird45

There should be only one tax rate... Say 10%. Only charitable deductions allowed. Nothing for kids, mortgages, etc. That is the only way to get rid of the evil tax code and treat everyone the same way.


11 posted on 10/24/2017 10:27:45 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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So the top 1% pay 39% of all taxes on AGI. What % of the AGI do those folks earn? WW doesn’t appear to discuss this or did I miss it?


12 posted on 10/24/2017 10:31:44 AM PDT by PSUGOP
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“A state can “end” sales taxes- by making the retailer pay them instead of the consumer...”

There is no way to predict who will end up paying that tax by simply trying to shift it to the retailer. That’s the lesson of Tax Incidence.

Some or all of the tax may be borne by the retailer in the form of lower profit. Some or all of the tax may fall on the consumer in the form of higher prices. If the retailer’s expenses go up and his income goes down he may go out of business. That’s one way tax incidence plays out. Depends upon what his margins are and whether his product is something that customers regard as essential.


13 posted on 10/24/2017 10:42:00 AM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: T-Bird45
By the way, earning $500,000 a year doesn’t make one rich. It’s not even yacht money.

Great line!

14 posted on 10/24/2017 10:43:22 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Goblins, Orcs and the Undead: Metaphors for the godless left.)
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To: PSUGOP

If 1 million people earn 2 million dollars on average that equals only 2 trillion dollars gross income. At 39% that’s about 800 billion in taxes. If 2 million people earn about 200k per year, that’s about 400 billion in income so about 100 billion in taxes. We’re almost at a trillion, but we bring in 3.5 trillion and borrow a trillion.

Where does the other 2.5 trillion in receipts come from if 1 of the 4 trillion is borrowed and another 1 trillion is from all the 130k incomes and higher?


15 posted on 10/24/2017 10:48:31 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. L)
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To: PSUGOP

16 posted on 10/24/2017 10:54:23 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. L)
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To: T-Bird45

bkmk


17 posted on 10/24/2017 10:54:46 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: T-Bird45

These numbers paint a pretty good picture of why those demanding the rich pay their “fair share” will never put a number on the amount, but rather just keep it vague in order to use it as an annual hammer to pound home a lie and promote envy.


18 posted on 10/24/2017 10:57:20 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: fuzzylogic

People who make $30K/year think people who make $40K/year are rich. The Left knows this game well.


19 posted on 10/24/2017 11:03:10 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Pelham

Yeah, the lack of certainty makes the subject complicated.

All this talk of reducing corp taxes to increase US global sales made a point with me that I’d never imagined. Foreign customers had been paying a significant share of our federal taxes!
Now that other nations have advanced it’s a net loss, but decades ago it was a good idea.


20 posted on 10/24/2017 11:04:50 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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