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Confronting climate change in Trump country
San Jose Mercury-News ^ | October 16, 2017 | By Claire Galofaro

Posted on 10/16/2017 1:27:27 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

... Jefferson County, Texas, is among the low-lying coastal areas of America that could lose the most as the ice caps melt and the seas warm and rise. At the same time, it is more economically dependent on the petroleum industry and its emissions-spewing refineries than any other place in the U.S. Residents seemed to choose between the two last November, abandoning a four-decade-old pattern of voting Democratic in presidential elections to support Donald Trump.

Then came Hurricane Harvey. Now some conservatives here are newly confronting some of the most polarizing questions in American political discourse: What role do humans play in global warming and the worsening of storms like Harvey? And what should they expect their leaders — including the climate-skeptic president they helped elect — to do about the problem now?

Answers are hard to come by in a place where refineries stand like cityscapes. Nearly 5,000 people work in the petroleum industry. Some have described the chemical stink in the air as “the smell of money” — it means paychecks, paid mortgages and meals.

Christopher, like most people in Jefferson County, believed that global warming was real before the storm hit. Post-Harvey, surrounded by debris stretching for block after block, he thinks the president’s outright rejection of the scientific consensus is no longer good enough.

But how do you help the climate without hurting those who depend on climate-polluting industries?

“It’s a Catch-22 kind of thing,” he said. “Do you want to build your economy, or do you want to save the world?”

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: fakescience; gerbilsswarming; globalwarming; goebbelswarming; gorebullwarming; hoax; socialism; weather
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1 posted on 10/16/2017 1:27:27 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Count me in if you want to save the world. Right now I am rescuing virgins from dragons - hard work- can’t find dragons OR virgins.

What an ass.


2 posted on 10/16/2017 1:30:58 PM PDT by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I like that you post that photo in connect with these sorts of reports.

Excellent idea.


3 posted on 10/16/2017 1:31:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s Autumn and in a couple month it will be winter.
There..I confronted climate change.


4 posted on 10/16/2017 1:33:04 PM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I remember when people asked questions, now they are characterized as ‘confronting’ questions.


5 posted on 10/16/2017 1:33:31 PM PDT by posterchild ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." - R. Feynman)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Congrats to the Mercury News for finding the STOOOOOOPIDEST guy in Texas.


6 posted on 10/16/2017 1:33:59 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“What role do humans play in global warming and the worsening of storms like Harvey? “

Other than stalling over SE TX for 5 days what makes Harvey any worse than a typical Hurricane?


7 posted on 10/16/2017 1:34:16 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Two scoops, two genders, two terms. Get used to it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sacrifice a couple trillion dollars in a volcano and gaia MAY be appeased.

But if Hitlery had been elected Mother Earth wouldnt have revolted in the first place. Tsk tsk.


8 posted on 10/16/2017 1:34:18 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Now some conservatives here are newly confronting some of the most polarizing questions in American political discourse: What role do humans play in global warming and the worsening of storms like Harvey? “

Really?!? No conservative would ask this idiotic leftard question. True conservatives would only ask the most relevant question pertaining to glowbull warming which is...”how stupid are liberals to believe this garbage?”

“why ar


9 posted on 10/16/2017 1:34:45 PM PDT by beergarden
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

>>Jefferson County, Texas, is among the low-lying coastal areas of America that could lose the most as the ice caps melt and the seas warm and rise. <<

Or not.

All events have a 50/50 probability: either something happens or it doesn’t.


10 posted on 10/16/2017 1:35:32 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (ALL records destroyed/faked, books rewritten, statues renamed, dates altered and more.../1984)
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To: Rebelbase

And some neighborhoods flooded as dam water was deliberately released.


11 posted on 10/16/2017 1:36:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Jefferson County, Texas, is among the low-lying coastal areas of America that could lose the most as the ice caps melt and the seas warm and rise.

NASA recently announced that the seas were getting lower, not higher. Your premise is a lie, Claire.

12 posted on 10/16/2017 1:36:25 PM PDT by MortMan (NFL kneelers: A colonoscopy is not supposed to be a self-exam.)
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" What role do humans play in global warming and the worsening of storms like Harvey? And what should they expect their leaders — including the climate-skeptic president they helped elect — to do about the problem now?"

They elected Trump in part because he does not suffer fools or believe in fairy tales...

13 posted on 10/16/2017 1:36:26 PM PDT by yoe
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ask Americans if they’re willing to pay $10 for a gallon of gas to “confront climate change.”


14 posted on 10/16/2017 1:36:59 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (Covfefe Trump!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You ever notice that if the topic is climate change, the very first sentence will state it with the unblinking certainty of a universal truth?


15 posted on 10/16/2017 1:38:02 PM PDT by lurk
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To: beergarden

“Now some conservatives here are newly confronting some of the most polarizing questions in American political discourse: What role do humans play in global warming and the worsening of storms like Harvey? “

Really?!? No conservative would ask this idiotic leftard question. True conservatives would only ask the most relevant question pertaining to glowbull warming which is...”how stupid are liberals to believe this garbage?”

Looking for the “LIKE” icon.


16 posted on 10/16/2017 1:39:48 PM PDT by wetgundog (Mainstream Media, Lying Liars Lying.)
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To: a fool in paradise

As a result of flooding caused by a stalled hurricane.


17 posted on 10/16/2017 1:40:21 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Two scoops, two genders, two terms. Get used to it.)
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Christopher, like most people in Jefferson County,

BS


18 posted on 10/16/2017 1:47:27 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“But how do you help the climate without hurting those who depend on climate-polluting industries?”

By increasing the market for climate-helping industries, which gives them new jobs to transition to.

Hence my increasing rhetoric: if you claim concern about climate change, but travel (direct or by proxy) by gasoline-powered vehicle, you’re a hypocrite and easily dismissed.
Solar power isn’t cheap, but it’s affordable if you care enough.
Electric cars (with good range) aren’t cheap, but affordable if you care enough.
Pollution-free industries don’t exist, but you can fund (as a customer) those that either pollute less or have a future more likely to reduce pollution substantially.
Upshot is: if YOU don’t actually start routing YOUR money to encourage the world you want, it ain’t gonna happen. Put up or shut up.


19 posted on 10/16/2017 1:53:51 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: lurk

It’s also true that if the topic is climate change, every paragraph will contain pretty much pure BS. The only ones writing about it at all are those who want to believe its OUR fault. Those of us who know that the climate has always and will always change don’t waste our time stating the obvious.


20 posted on 10/16/2017 2:05:19 PM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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